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U.S. is in danger from Russia

Aug 26, 2008 - 04:06:39 CDT

By FRANCES MEDUNA
Manning

The Olympics in China distracted us while a dire situation was occurring in Europe. Russia invading Georgia may only be the beginning. According to news reports, Poland, Ukraine and the Czech Republic may all be next.

Russia has not changed its goal. The majority of the people are peaceful, but the people in control of the government still want to control the world. They are just using a different strategy. We must face the reality that our country is in grave danger.

Russia needs to be consecrated religiously as advised during World War I, but still is not done. The pope, with the bishops, must consecrate Russia specifically to the Immaculate Heart of Mary as was requested by Our Lady of Fatima.

The only way to have real peace is prayer, sacrifice and moral living. The people of the United States, with our freedom of religion, can do much to have this accomplished.

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HerbertND wrote on Sep 2, 2008 1:31 PM:

" You could not be further from the truth. Everyone needs a reality check. Russia responded to an illegal military action started by Georgia backed by NATO/United States. This is a strategic responce by NATO/United States for control over the EurAsia pipeline that is running through South Otessia. It is a precursure to a Russian attack on Poland due to the new "missile agreement" and NATO wants to know how Russia can resopond. I guess we all found out. Nobody is in the "right". But Russia was right to respond. "

Chavez wrote on Sep 2, 2008 11:47 AM:

" So...Russia would behave if it only agreed to follow the third vision at Fatima?!?!? I have heard foreign policy described in many contexts, but now we want to throw in the fantasies of the alleged "Lady of Fatima?" My God, we have really reached the bottom of the intellectual well if this is what the general population (or this letter-writer at least) is demanding. What other religious fantasies could we use as justification of national behavior? Lourdes? Sitting in a lotus position along the Ganges? Consulting a tortilla with the image of the Holy Virgin on it in Mexico? How about praying in Jerusalem for the Second Coming of Christ...oh wait, American religious conservatives already do that... "

Sam wrote on Sep 2, 2008 11:26 AM:

" Wise Ben Franklin said it best, "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. " That phrase certainly describes some of you here who adivse a policy of servile deference to the Russian bear. "

MamaMia wrote on Aug 31, 2008 11:14 PM:

" BJB: I rarely, if ever, use these forums to argue with people. It is like arguing with a pig. It is futiile, and more importantly,it annoys the pig. BTW, just for your info, I was a Hillary gal. "

Rugby Reader wrote on Aug 31, 2008 9:46 PM:

" The only danger we face is from those who claim we face danger from Russia.

This is nothing more than propaganda and lies, just like the lead-up to the illegal, immoral, unjustified, and unnecessary invasion and occupation of Iraq.

http://ivaw.org

Peace... "

Bite The Hand That Feeds You wrote on Aug 31, 2008 8:22 PM:

" This is exactly why Americans should worry about our own and re-become the best super power on earth! Slowly but surely America The Beautiful is dieing, becoming minorities and many other things, but higher powers think differently and surprisingly Without Common Sense. A Snake is a Snake no matter how it looks and acts. "

Ashamed of his fellow North Dakotans wrote on Aug 31, 2008 4:10 PM:

" Its saddens me to be from this state sometimes. All you people do is pass blame from one to the other and pass judgement on something before you even know about it or try to understand it. I am proud to be from North Dakota but I am not proud to call a lot of you my fellow North Dakotans. Please think before you speak and if you are going to speak make sure you have something intelligent to say! "

MamaMia wrote on Aug 31, 2008 3:22 PM:

" BJB: I very rarely use these comment boards to argue with people. It's like arguing with a pig. It's futile, and besides, it annoys the pig. Oh yeah, and I was a Hillary gal, for your info. "

Facts wrote on Aug 30, 2008 9:52 AM:

" "U.S. is in danger from Russia" This is right where Barcak Hussein Obama, his mean and angry wife, Usama Bin Laden, and the Iranian president would like us to be. Thank you DEMOCRATS!!! "

BJB wrote on Aug 30, 2008 9:15 AM:

" MamaMia: I noticed all your comments are very humorous, and offer many digs into republicans and the current administration. However, I see very little substance or meat as some would call it. Very little insight, or thought put into these comments. Reminds me of your hero, Obama. "

kenny wrote on Aug 29, 2008 6:14 PM:

" Very original se forty "

SE Forty wrote on Aug 29, 2008 9:38 AM:

" The United States is in danger from the Republicans. "

MamaMia wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:25 AM:

" Maybe if we all consecrate Iraq to the Immaculate Heart of Mary as requested by Our Lady of Fatima we can get the heck out of there. Worth a try, huh? "

REX wrote on Aug 29, 2008 4:16 AM:

" The US is in danger from the Democratic party. "

kenny wrote on Aug 28, 2008 7:00 PM:

" To Rugby Reader:
I Agree with part of your original comment that the U.S. should not worry to much about Russia now. But definatly should keep an eye on these bullies, that are making a mokery of us. He who laughs last laughs best and I believe the U.S. will laugh last.
As far as your outlandish comments about how the U.S. commits crimes all around the world where do you get your info from Holywood? Mabey you forgot who was in controll of Iraq before we invaded, or the Towers? Mabey you should read some before and after stories about how much we helped the Iraqi people. Your comments just spit in the face of every soldier that was and still is there.
And when you say the "war on terror" let me ask you Have we been attacked since the Patriot Act? "

Wolf wrote on Aug 28, 2008 8:47 AM:

" Engaging in 21st century wars based on 20th century ideologies is going to get us all killed. Russia buys our treasuries, they have a stock market just as corrupt as ours, an unquestioning press that parrots their leaders talking points, and when they feel it is in their best self interest they will invade another country. I'm sure there are other similarities but its too depressing to think about. "

concerned wrote on Aug 27, 2008 3:53 PM:

" Point to ponder is very correct about what is going on over there. Another thing to remember is that Russia used to control this area which provided access to the oil ports, now they no longer have this! Again, this about oil which is vital to our economy and not their's. I believe they won't leave those two provinces in order to secure there own interests and to show the Georgians of the consequences of joining the European Union or NATO. This will be a very important topic for whoever is president in the near future. "

Deb wrote on Aug 27, 2008 11:41 AM:

" uhm, Smoky: while McCain was chatting on the phone with unnamed people in Georgia, Joe Biden was on the ground talking to leaders from both sides of the conflict.

No way, no how, no MCCain.

p.s. this letter is crazytown too. "

Smoky Mirrors wrote on Aug 27, 2008 10:11 AM:

" Maybe Putin is just trying to help McCain get elected.
Putin is not really a danger to us because China owns us and they are not likely to give us to him for free.
Not likely Obama knows much about the cold war chess game as played on the European continent and Asia since world war two. Maybe Obama can convince Condoleezza to stay on and continue running the white house. "

Point to Ponder wrote on Aug 27, 2008 9:15 AM:

" First, Pavel is right, the Georgians started this by attacking Ossetia and engaging in ethnic cleansing. Russia responded (in the usual brutal Russian way) much the same way that NATO and the US responded in Kosovo. Second, restarting the cold war isn't going to anyone any good. Third, attacking Russia is suicide. Remember they have nuclear weapons pointed at Minot. That means everyone dies in North Dakota. "

Independent Conservative wrote on Aug 27, 2008 8:22 AM:

" Econ. Conservative, the athor is no fundamentalist. She's Roman Catholic. BIG difference. I agree with you that her premise is askew, though. Strange, actually.

BabyT, can you tally up the number of religious war victims vs. the wholesale slaughter of citizens by communist regimes with atheism as one of their core philosophies? Thanks. One death because of religious disagreement is too much, but if you want to play this by the numbers of "believers' atrocities versus atheists' atrocities" you will lose. It's a strawman. "

Done right wrote on Aug 27, 2008 8:20 AM:

" We should have done it right when we developed nuclear bombs.. ONE WORLD ORDER. Yes you would have your terrorists ..like we don't now?.. but we sure wouldn't have to worry about Russia would we? but instead we being good people allowed everything to pretty much be the same. now look at where we are at today... remember that when you decide to vote.. cower in our shoars or fight with pride. "

Rugby Reader wrote on Aug 27, 2008 1:26 AM:

" "I am really sick of hearing about how some of the Iraqis are not thankful that we gave them freedom."

Gave them freedom? What kind of crack are you smoking? We have done nothing but waste lives and resources in Iraq.

http://ivaw.org "

Matt wrote on Aug 26, 2008 11:12 PM:

" Bulldozer is right. To be sure, the communists took off their Soviet Union clothes but didn't throw them away. The old ones are just in mothballs for awhile. "

Point to Ponder wrote on Aug 26, 2008 11:04 PM:

" Before all you "patriots" start waving the war sabre at Russia, remember they have these things call nuclear weapons. Also remember where you live in proximity to Minot Air Force base that has nukes also. Guess which states have a big bulls eye on them? I'll give you a hint, look outside the window and see one. "

Dakota Patriot wrote on Aug 26, 2008 9:40 PM:

" Don't be fooled folks. They are still commies and they still want to kill us. The only thing that these folks understand is force. Sadly, our limp wristed president did nothing about it. It will come back to haunt us. We should be pumping the oil in Iraq to fund a larger military to support wars on several fronts if it is needed. We also could use the Iraqi oil to lower our oil prices here too. I am really sick of hearing about how some of the Iraqis are not thankful that we gave them freedom. They make me sick. "

zzz wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:04 PM:

" I don't trust Russia either but they have nothing to gain by more tensions with the West; they have too much money invested. Protraying Putin and Medvedev as evil like Stalin was is not helping. We're also putting too much trust in this Georgian president; for the past 5 years he's sent troops into these areas and killed thousands. Imagine if the U.S. broke up and North Dakota and South Dakota were separate countries. Let's say Campbell county wanted to secede and join North Dakota. But instead of letting them go the Pierre regime launched small military strikes into Emmons County for years; in response the Bismarck government sends a big force towards Pollock and Herreid to stop it and create a buffer zone. I don't mean this as a joke -- this scenario makes about as much sense as what's going on over there now. It's basically a civil war and we need to stay out of it. "

Bulldozer wrote on Aug 26, 2008 1:34 PM:

" It should be very clear. Communisn is still very much alive and well. Only the face of it has changed to attempt to fool everyone. Think about it! "

Economic Conservative wrote on Aug 26, 2008 12:15 PM:

" Hummm, Religion is the answer for all the problems in the world, is it now? I guess the author of this letter failed to read the latest PEW Foundation poll in which 52% of the Americans polled want religion out of politics. I am sorry but it appears the fundamentalists have got to find a new rally point for thier political platform, so let's just recreate the cold war of 50,s 60,s and 70's. "

Pavel wrote on Aug 26, 2008 12:15 PM:

" Georgia shelled Ossetia out of the blue, killing close to 2,000 unarmed citizens, most of them Russians. The attack would illicit a response from any country, and that's just what Russia did. Fox news, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, AP newswire all are bending the truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ
A 12 year old eye witness and her relative, try to tell Faux news the truth, and Fox cuts them off.

You people are being lied to by your media. "

The other side of the coin wrote on Aug 26, 2008 11:34 AM:

" question. If you or other Bloggers dont like or trust The New York times because you think it is to liberal try Fox news.com they have a good article/news story about a possible new cold war and a BP oil pipeline that is important to our interests that passes through the Republic of Georgia. Just another reason to wean our nation from foreign oil and devise other methods of moving ourselves around without gasoline or any carbon based fuel. "

The other side of the coin wrote on Aug 26, 2008 11:14 AM:

" question, the answer to your question is no. Russias communist leaders are doing what they have always done very well; pick on the small little countries. I suggest all of you Bloggers read one of the lead stories in todays New York Times. Just open up Google, or what ever you use, and type in New York Times. "

Seriously wrote on Aug 26, 2008 10:43 AM:

" The author had me somewhat interested until the third paragraph. Uh huh, sure! "

CS wrote on Aug 26, 2008 10:39 AM:

" Hey BabyT, don't mess with Texas. "

Don Julio wrote on Aug 26, 2008 9:45 AM:

" The 1980's called...they want their letter to the editor back. "

PO wrote on Aug 26, 2008 9:42 AM:

" What do you expect, US and our leaders are chumps and Putin sees that he can do what he pretty well wants to do. "

question wrote on Aug 26, 2008 9:06 AM:

" Didn't Georgia invade Russia first? Wasn't Russia just retaliating? "

Grumpy Old Republican wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:32 AM:

" Prayer is fine, but superior firepower is what really has held Russia at bay for several decades. :) "

BabyT wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:10 AM:

" The only way to have real peace is 'religion'??? The bloodiest wars this planet has seen have all been the direct result of religion. Usually it is one of two reasons: Our religion doesn't agree with their religion, or our religion is the only correct one and we need to convert the heathens. Russia is just shaking its big noisy stick at some former Soviet colonies. The US has a hard time understanding the situation, but lets say for example Texas decided to declare independence. At the time, lets also say our government was relatively powerless, we are fighting another war somewhere else. Well, lets also say we end that other war, and now bring the troops home to make sure Texas joins the union again. Sounds plausible? So what is bad about Russia doing the exact same thing? "

The other side of the coin wrote on Aug 26, 2008 7:32 AM:

" Yes, Russian leadership under Vladimir Putin is once again posing a threat to the stability of the region. Putin is an old communist who dreams of reinstating the power of the Old Russian bear and that bear has teeth that are weapons of mass destruction. We need to tread carefully. Our nations military is stretched thin because of Iraq and there is little we can do right now but grumble. Bush looked into Putins soul, upon their first meeting, and found or thought he had found someone he could do business with. As far as the last two paragraphs of this letter to the editor, I dont have the foggiest idea what Frances is talking about. In recent travel to Russia I found the common person to be very religious. Churchs were being opened and filled. With the serious problems our nation now faces we had better be careful about boasting about our alleged moral superiority. Prayer and moral living will not bring world peace, speaking softly and intelligently while carrying a big stick will. "

Adam wrote on Aug 26, 2008 7:19 AM:

" I disagree with the author of the letter. The only way to have real peace is to establish global laissez-faire capitalism and respect the founding principles that built the United States. Consecrating Russia to Mary's cardiovascular system unfortunately won't make them stand down; the nations of the West need to stand united against Russia, make no moral or practical concessions, and flex its military strength. "

two cents wrote on Aug 26, 2008 6:27 AM:

" Ok, now I see we can stop Russia if we get them to pray. I was just wondeing how you are going to do that. I also would like to ask had you ever heard of the a little thing called the cursades? They were to fought to bring religion to the mid east. We can see that worked out real good. "

Rugby Reader wrote on Aug 26, 2008 6:12 AM:

" The United States is not in danger from Russia, as the propaganda from our media lead some like Frances Meduna to believe. The real danger we face is our compliant citizenry that let our government commit crimes around the world in our name, such as Bush's illegal, immoral, unjustified, and unconstitutional invasion and occupation of Iraq. We allow our elected politicians to pass tyrannical legislation such as the USA Patriot Act that strips away our privacy and rights in the guise of prosecuting Bush's phony "war on terror." Wake up, people! "

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