Aug 18, 2008 - 07:17:03 CDT
The letter by Brent McCarthy demonstrates a whole lot of partisanship backed up by very little knowledge.He says that if only America would drill in ANWR in Alaska, we wouldn't have this energy mess. And then he rants a bunch of thoughtless partisan nonsense about the Democrats.
Maybe he just forgot that John McCain has voted against opening ANWR for drilling. And maybe he has forgotten the eight years of mismanagement by George W. Bush.
In any event, McCarthy misrepresents the positions of Senators Dorgan and Conrad on drilling. Both have supported more drilling.
But if McCarthy is intent on venting, he might look to the two oil boys in the White House who, for eight years, have steered us toward this cliff of high oil and gas prices.
It is nearly laughable to read the excuses Republicans make in an attempt to cover up for the incompetence of the president of their own party.
VoR wrote on Aug 25, 2008 10:48 PM:
Here is a brief excerpt of an L.A. Times article from 5-22-07:
McCain has shouted at people for any number of reasons, including errors of judgment, disagreements on public policy and even how to set up a podium. In McCains world, there arent legitimate differences of opinions, said David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union, which differs with McCain on some issues. There is his way and there is evil. That is how he approaches issues. That is one of the reasons for conservative nervousness about him. His temper has been an issue for years.
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/may/22/nation/na-outburst22
It is indeed refreshing to hear from a Republican who isn't allowing El Rushbo to frame you viewpoint. "
BJB wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:02 PM:
VoR wrote on Aug 25, 2008 8:26 PM:
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56177
and other scurrilous anti McCain rumors. Sadly I suspect that over the ensuing few months separating the wheat from the chaff won't get any easier. Let's not play the presumtive purity of motives game. Nobody is fooling anyone else. "
Dew wrote on Aug 25, 2008 5:14 PM:
You are quoting a German website? "Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity" hey.... if it is true why don't they have the guts to say their names?
Here is another part of the 'article': "The exchange between McCain and his wife was not reported anywhere when it happened, "
Gee, if it HAD happened ... SOMEONE FROM THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA WOULD HAVE REPORTED IT!
I really thought more of you than this!
And I also thought Obama was the man of CHANGE..... I guess that does not apply to the people that want him to be President! "
Dew wrote on Aug 25, 2008 4:54 PM:
Funny how the Democrats forget the 'rest of the story'! "
Wolf wrote on Aug 25, 2008 4:26 PM:
I would also add that even if you tap it, OPEC and its reserves can increase production so they don't lose market share and put those rigs out of business. Sure the threat will get you cheaper oil but they'll still take the market, that oil is just too much and too easy to get. When it comes to oil we are the small stack at the poker table. Meanwhile oil revenue in the Mideast leads to WMD's. "
This is nuts wrote on Aug 25, 2008 11:21 AM:
Here is another opinion
http://www.api.org/aboutoilgas/upload/truth_primer.pdf "
Wolf wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:26 AM:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/14/AR2008071401049.html?sid=ST2008071401842&s_pos=
17.8 billion barrels off-shore and 20 to 25 billion barrels in ANWR of proven reserves and we consume 20 million barrels per day. How can we possibly drill our way out of this problem?
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/cfapps/STEO_Query/steotables.cfm?periodType=Annual&startYear=2004&startMonth=1&endYear=2008&endMonth=12&tableNumber=9# "
VoR wrote on Aug 25, 2008 1:45 AM:
On his radio show Monday Limbaugh said that if McCain is elected president, he would destroy the Republican party by working with Democrats to pass liberal legislation.
The other reason I was asking is because as a woman you found Joe Bidens remark about Mrs. Obama to be disgusting, which is understandable. It makes me wonder how you feel about John McCains alleged comments to his wife as heard by three reporters. A comment that I, as a man found to be coarse and outrageous. Ive included the link here because the language itself is much too offensive to be repeated in a this, or indeed most civil forums.
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.politics/2008-04/msg01106.html "
CH wrote on Aug 25, 2008 12:36 AM:
Carter put solar panels on the white house. Reagan took them down.
Clinton pushed threw a tax credit for zero emission cars. ( NEV's Gem Cars)
Bush pushed threw a tax credit for Gas Guzzlers.
The GOP (Greedy oil Party) would not vote for the energy bill a few weeks ago because there was to much Pork ( solar and wind credits) Yet have given over 17 billion in tax breaks to big oil. yes the Dems gave away tax credits to big oil but at least there was funding for alt energy.
Off shore and Anwr are a distraction. Our back yard has more oil then the whole Alaska North slope, Yet we can not get it all to market. "
BJB wrote on Aug 24, 2008 9:12 PM:
VoR wrote on Aug 24, 2008 3:48 PM:
BJB wrote on Aug 24, 2008 1:01 PM:
Dew wrote on Aug 24, 2008 8:59 AM:
http://www.blogrunner.com/snapshot/D/3/4/joe_biden_on_barack_obama/
just click on the top left hand message where is says : JohnMcCaindotcom | YouTube Saturday, August 23
Joe Biden On Barack Obama "
This is nuts wrote on Aug 23, 2008 9:51 AM:
It is good to form an opinion, but it isn't always best to base it totally on anothers opinion that is extremely biased along with the potential of enormous financial gain.
We are presently importing 4,602,035/million cu. ft. of natural gas per year, that's four million million cu.ft.. Yes we can drill more wells because there is more in the ground, just like oil. In fact between 2001 and 2006 we gained 75,347 new natural gas wells in the United States, I wonder how many of those your buddy Pickens owns?
Don't get me wrong, I believe in wind, and natural gas is good, but going up in price right now, as we debate. "
VoR wrote on Aug 23, 2008 1:06 AM:
We absolutely do not have enough readily accessible oil to make this necessary transition Check out his website: http://www.pickensplan.com
Secondly, Even after seeing that embarrassing incident where the American President went to Saudi Arabia and begged them for some more of their oil it had a minimal effect on prices. The biggest reason that oil and other commodities are falling is that economies around the world are slowing down, if not already in recession. Both Germany and France reported declines in second-quarter gross domestic product, their first quarterly decreases in years. I will grant you that keeping a steady supply while decreasing demand will cause prices to drop. An important factor in the recent oil price reductions was a noticeable decrease in discretionary driving habits here in America. The benevolence of OPEC had little to do with it.
Thirdly, If we want to reach actual energy independence in he next decade the answer is on the grid, not at the pump. Not only will making this transition redirect trillions of dollars into our own economy and create million of new jobs, but it's just a fact that the US will never have to fight a war over electricity.
So if you still believe, despite the expert opinions of people like T. Boone Pickens that we really can drill or way to energy independence all I can say is that I think you should a least consider who is proposing the most expensive and unrealistic option here. "
This is nuts wrote on Aug 22, 2008 5:50 PM:
This has got to be the most expensive, unrealistic option I have ever heard. We have enough oil to get us through a transition to electric/Hydrogen, why would we want to pay for a conversion to CNG and then a transition to Hydrogen? I thought we were trying to stop the country from going bankrupt.
More domestic production will drop oil prices! Bush went to the mideast begging them to produce more oil. why? Because more supply reduces prices, just as less demand while maintaining production also increases supply and lowers speculative value. That is why we have had a drop in oil prices.
We need to start the transition, drill like crazy, and look to a future of independence. "
MsRepublicanWit wrote on Aug 22, 2008 10:38 AM:
VoR wrote on Aug 22, 2008 1:10 AM:
Using natural gas (which will burn in internal combustion engines) as well as electricity to run our vehicles is simply a way to transition from oil to hydrogen. The use of CNG is being pushed by T. Boone Pickens, who also sees oil as an obsolete energy source. http://www.pickensplan.com
The point is that using oil is no longer in our best national interest. Even is we manage to suck every last drop from the ground it's still a finite resource with negative impacts on our environment as well as our economy. We have the knowledge to beak our oil addiction now. All we're doing now is delaying the inevitable. Let's keep America in the lead here and not wait for the technology to come from other places. "
Dakota wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:22 PM:
How are these geo-thermal heat pumps powered from? Coal fired power plants.
To me, protecting the enviroment, is not using power from our "unclean" North Dakota power plants.,(regardless what the utility company is saying- How can you rate a geo-thermal heat pump system at 300% efficient? easy, You don't consider the production process and power lost before it gets to your house, shouldn't this be considered in the efficiency factor?
Why can't Garrision Dam to used for power? anybody have any answers? Hydro is good clean power. "
kenny wrote on Aug 21, 2008 7:14 PM:
REX wrote on Aug 21, 2008 6:14 PM:
dof wrote on Aug 21, 2008 5:04 PM:
In the 1960's my father farmed with tractors powered by LPG which is a product similar to CNG, with pressurized tanks working, with a lower pressure product that is liquid and has more calories than CNG. It took twice the gallons of LPG to equal the work of a diesel gallon. And he lit up one of the tractors compressed tanks by accident and sustained severe burns (kind of dangerous). CNG is a great source of fuel for fixed installations, furnaces, water heaters, dryers etc. and in its industrial form terrific for powering blast furnaces and jet turbines to power generators but in these installations the gas is piped to the end use and for a good reason. It doesnt contain much power / decatherm so it takes a lot of it to produce the kind of power we are used to consuming... and it will take a huge heavy tank to equal the power contained in a 37 gallon SUV gas tank. "
VoR wrote on Aug 21, 2008 5:03 PM:
The other thing to keep in mind is that CNG should only be considered as a transitional fuel until the electrical grid can be restructured and a hydrogen economy created.
What is important is that we start taking steps to move away from this insane dependence on foreign oil. Please dont respond with something about drilling in the Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge or building new oil platforms offshore. This will NOT solve the problem. Dont take my word for it. Check out T. Boone Pickens website http://www.pickensplan.com "
I Disagree wrote on Aug 21, 2008 11:29 AM:
Dew wrote on Aug 21, 2008 11:10 AM:
Oh, any one see the latest polls on Bush, his rating is also going UP! It is much higher than The Democratic Congress right now! I can just hear dante, mama, mom and bill just sobbing!
This Is Nuts: I read the item you posted. The It was very interesting and informative. The left cannot read Right, because they are too Wrong! I am all for doing what we can to get of FOREIGN oil, as T. Bonne Pickens has said but, the way the left is sounding they will grab at anything not to let the gas prices go down while GW Bush is in office. We know it is dropping right now becaus ethey are 'contemplating' opening up more places to drill.... and they do know that if we said, right now, that we will drill in ANWR (a barren region), and off shore other places that were closed off by Bill Clinton, the price of gas would drop even more! "
This is nuts wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:02 AM:
In effect, the cost to run our vehicles will not be much less and the cost of heating our homes will double. Not to mention the cost of the infrastructure, where to mount the larger fuel storage units on vehicles, and the conversion costs! I thought you Dem's were trying to get away from fossile fuels?
Do you left ringers ever read the Right Commentary, it would help!!
http://www.zimbio.com/member/rightcommentary/articles/2094132/Challenges+Energy+Part+III+Natural+Gas+Automobiles "
VoR wrote on Aug 21, 2008 12:31 AM:
Natural gas is our country's second largest energy resource and a vital component of our energy supply. 98% of the natural gas used in the United States is from North America. But 70% of our oil is purchased from foreign nations.
Natural gas is one of the cleanest, safest and most useful forms of energy residentially, commercially and industrially. The natural gas industry has existed in the United States for over 100 years and continues to grow.
Domestic natural gas reserves are twice that of petroleum. And new discoveries of natural gas and ongoing development of renewable biogas are continually adding to our existing reserves.
Yet even while it's a cheap, effective and versatile fuel, less than 1% of natural gas is currently used for transportation.
According to the California Energy Commission, critical greenhouse gas emissions from natural gas are 23% lower than diesel and 30% lower than gasoline. This a logical way to wean from ourselves from our dangerous addiction to oil and into electric and eventually into hydrogen vehicles. We can NOT drill our way out of this problem. We must end this oil addiction or it will ruin our economy. Just for kicks try googleing NGVAmeica "
seven gone wrote on Aug 20, 2008 11:00 PM:
bill garr: your marxism is really becoming of you. of course the demos haven't done anything ... that's what you marxists believe in - gov't employees that do nothing at all, and have no accountability.
mamamia: sure, sure. dream on. you and bill garr are cut from the same marxist cloth. if obama wins, god help this country (no pun intended). if he loses, four more years of laughing at fools from the left as you that believe the moveon.org garbage without thinking rationally about any of it. "
Mystified wrote on Aug 20, 2008 9:04 PM:
Regardless of how one feels about drilling in certain areas or the impact that would have on the overall energy situation, I don't get the general strategy of the Democrats. I doubt it makes any sense to the millions of people watching this lack of action by our Congress, either. "
This is nuts wrote on Aug 20, 2008 5:53 PM:
VoR, My Yukon runs on Gas! It will be at least fifteen years before electric vehicles take over the market. To buy a hybrid now will break you faster than 4$ gas!
The fact is ANWR and off shore is the safest and the quickest way to lessen our dependence of arab oil. How many pipe lines or off shore rigs have been in the (bad) news. Oil tankers crossing the ocean is the Dem's immediate answer, how many spills, google it! Alternative energy vehicles are not here, duh!!
The problem is the Dem's have always held this position and no matter how wrong they are, they are going to stick with it. Our nation is going bankrupt because we are giving all of our money to OPEC for a product that we have below our feet. "
Dew wrote on Aug 20, 2008 4:00 PM:
This will not happen with in the next ten years! So why do it at all? (That is what the Demsa are saying about drilling in the barren lands of ANWR!) We are not all able to 'junk our cars and buy a new model that will sell for a heck of a lot more than what we can drive our present car!
I sure would like to see where you get your info and why do we need all these 'plastic' things that only fill up our landfills and do not break down and go back into the soil? You want to save on one end so we can have a 'plastic usa'? "
Dew wrote on Aug 20, 2008 3:52 PM:
MamaMia wrote on Aug 20, 2008 2:03 PM:
VoR wrote on Aug 20, 2008 1:22 PM:
As to the question posed by This is nuts, How is wind, geothermal, or solar going to run my car? The answer is by switching our cars to electricity. By transitioning our primary transportation fuel source from the pump to the grid we can eliminate over 80 percent of our oil demand, leaving plenty left for manufacturing our bags, bottles etc. "
to Bill G-A-R-R wrote on Aug 20, 2008 10:56 AM:
Dew wrote on Aug 20, 2008 10:18 AM:
VoR, do you see the word 'imported' here? I have heard T.Boone many times and he always says 'imported oil'! He has never once said we need not drill HERE! He simply wants what most of us want, more renewable energy but, it an't gonna happen in 10 years time! There will be progress but, we also need our oil here! Remember, everyone says NIMBY! Coal, it's too dirty, Nuclear, it's unsafe. Wind, it will kill a bird. I happen to think corn based Ethanol is a joke as that is what raised all our food prices this last year. Although we are giving it a try again right now because the cost is less than reg. gas. Some of you are saying 'conserve, conserve, conserve, well how do the rest of us know you are really conserving? I began years ago by installing a Geothermal system for heating and cooling my home. We live awayfrom the city so anytime I need groceries I have to drive, I cannot walk or ride a bike that far. But, I do not drive in just because I need a roll of TP or a can of soup!
Any one that complains about someone using a motor home ....if they have one... should just be quiet uhnless you can get Al Gore to stop using so much energy! These older people have retired and if they can afford it, it is none of your business! This IS America, after all! And if someone has a boat and takes his family to the lake for a weekend of family fun... that is good! Better than Dad sitting in a bar all weekend and Mom teed off at Dad so she goes shopping and the kids running all over town with their cars! And of course Dad did not walk to the bar, either! "
This is nuts wrote on Aug 20, 2008 10:08 AM:
http://www.earth-policy.org/Updates/2006/Update51.htm
Fossil fuels are also used in the packaging of water. The most commonly used plastic for making water bottles is polyethylene terephthalate (PET), which is derived from crude oil. Making bottles to meet Americans demand for bottled water requires more than 17 million barrels of oil annually, enough to fuel more than 1 million U.S. cars for a year.* Worldwide, some 2.7 million tons of plastic are used to bottle water each year.
Not to mention all of the other plastics that we use daily, you see it is not all about gasoline! How often do you drop off your plastic for recycling? "
This is nuts wrote on Aug 20, 2008 9:55 AM:
http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/005229.html
"Last year, the region's six largest petroleum exporters -- Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Iran, Kuwait, Iraq and Qatar -- curbed their output by 544,000 barrels a day. At the same time, their domestic demand increased by 318,000 barrels a day, leading to a loss in net exports of 862,000 barrels a day, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration."
In 1972 the United Stats was the largest producer of oil, OPEC countries have taken over and the United States has not kept up. We are in short supply, but we continue to EXPORT our oil!
Yes we need to conserve and establish alternatives, but why should we suffer for the ten years that is going to take? We have a pipeline close to the ANWR fields, you know the pipeline with all the animals around it, experts say it could easily be brought into production in a short time. We need instant relief!
The Democrats are holding us hostage, they are stopping possible relief without providing an answer.
How is wind, geothermal, or solar going to run my car? "
dlj wrote on Aug 20, 2008 9:19 AM:
No Coffee Yet wrote on Aug 20, 2008 5:27 AM:
Many of us are spoiled to the point where we can't imagine going a city block without hopping into a huge, plush motor coach designed to carry six people. Much to the suffering of our pocketbooks and our health. "
No Coffee Yet wrote on Aug 20, 2008 5:20 AM:
Like what? After much fanfare and self-congratulation about there being 'a new Congress in town' which was going to accomplish much in their 'first 100 days' (ah ... the sloganeering has been good; I'll have to admit), they've given us several massive bailouts of big business (large homebuilders and fannie mae/freddie mac), an all time high record spending budget, and nothing in the form of even a good run at an energy policy.
Am I supposed to vote for the party that appears to be the least damaging or the least ineffective? That's supposed to be a good thing? That doesn't fit well with me. "
VoR wrote on Aug 20, 2008 12:45 AM:
To This is nuts, Who do you mean by "you guys"? On 1-31-2006 President George W Bush warned the US must break its "addiction" to oil, in his State of the Union address. He said the US was too reliant on oil, often from "unstable" countries, and had to find alternatives.
To quote T. Boone Pickins (an oil billionaire)"Our dependence on imported oil is killing our economy, he said. "It is the single biggest problem facing America today. As we import more and more of our energy, we are participating in the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of mankind.
Actually, I think we're all pretty close on this one.
BTW It's not really fair to say we are addicted to water since it is a major constituent of all living matter. "
BILL G-A-R-R wrote on Aug 19, 2008 10:33 PM:
Jim S wrote on Aug 19, 2008 9:47 PM:
This is nuts wrote on Aug 19, 2008 9:46 PM:
We both agree that we have to work on energy conservation, two of my businesses have been for 28 years. What we also need is to quickly get out of the control of OPEC. We have the resources, we need to access them until the auto industry can catch up. They are the ones that are ten years out not the oil industry! "
VoR wrote on Aug 19, 2008 9:16 PM:
Definition of addiction by Merriam/Webster: Compulsive need for and use of a habit-forming substance (as heroin, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be harmful.
As you pointed out the only effective treatment for addiction is to stop using the substance. Unfortunately total abstinence isn't realistic at this point. However if we were to approach this problem seriously and retrofit our existing transportation to run on natural gas while adopting a Manhattan Project level effort at developing electric vehicles until a hydrogen economy can be put into place our dependence on imported oil could be cut to zero in a very short time.
We could end this addiction if we really wanted to, but as usual addicts always find ways to justify their habit. "
PoeticJustice wrote on Aug 19, 2008 2:12 PM:
Guess what? This oil crisis is not only bankrupting us, it's placed our national security in jeopardy. So it's time we went beyond the Intro to Economics 101 level. America is deeply compromised by our addiction to oil. Common sense dictates you don't end an addiction to oil by drilling for more.
The only way to permanently lower the artificially inflated price of gasoline is to stop using it. I'm not talking about the federal government or big business. I'm talking about each and every one of us taking personal responsibility. We don't have to wait for Senator McCain or any other politician to solve this crisis. "
Wolf wrote on Aug 19, 2008 11:44 AM:
Dew wrote on Aug 19, 2008 10:53 AM:
Dew wrote on Aug 19, 2008 10:48 AM:
Birdie wrote on Aug 19, 2008 6:38 AM:
I remember wrote on Aug 19, 2008 12:04 AM:
REX wrote on Aug 18, 2008 9:20 PM:
Tops wrote on Aug 18, 2008 8:00 PM:
seven gone wrote on Aug 18, 2008 6:03 PM:
you seem to think that with your head embedded in an uncomfortable place that all will be well when bush leaves. it wasn't before he got there. we'll be lucky if the next one doesn't make it even worse, from either party. to pretend that all will be well just because he leaves is just plain silly. grow up! "
This is nuts wrote on Aug 18, 2008 2:14 PM:
You say; "Only a complete moron would look to the greedy OIL conglomerates to solve our OIL crisis". and "In order to cut the PRICE of oil -- you must cut the DEMAND for oil"
I think it takes a complete moron to believe that cutting the demand for oil will cut the price, while not believing it has any relationship to supply!
"If it's vacation season -- gas prices go up." Guess what, demand goes up and supply goes down! Economics 101!!! "
PoeticJustice wrote on Aug 18, 2008 1:36 PM:
Only a complete moron would look to the greedy OIL conglomerates to solve our OIL crisis.
Oil companies -- like every other business -- pass the cost of production on to the consumer. So why would the cost of oil go down if production costs for drilling go up? While it's true that, THEORETICALLY there MAY eventually be slightly more oil available on the market -- in 7 to 10 years -- the U.S. government does not dictate how private companies operate or how much of their product must be placed on the market.
Besides, the tired old Republican claim that putting more oil on the market will lower prices, assumes that the price is dictated by the market. Anyone old enough to drive knows the big oil conglomerates raise and lower their prices arbitrarily. If it's vacation season -- gas prices go up. The price of gasoline has nothing whatsoever to do with the "available" amount of oil.
As George Bush himself admitted -- America is addicted to oil. We're not going to curb our long-time addiction to oil by drilling for more of it. Even John McCain knows that, and -- until last month anyway -- McCain was totally opposed to handing out tax subsidies to increase off-shore drilling.
There's only one way to permanently lower the price of gasoline -- stop buying it.
In order to cut the PRICE of oil -- you must cut the DEMAND for oil. And you don't need to wait for Mr. McCain's new-fangled 10-year drilling program. Take a bus to work, car-pool, or better yet, ride a bike. Not only will you save money, the excersise will actually do you some good. "
The other side of the coin wrote on Aug 18, 2008 12:58 PM:
The other side of the coin wrote on Aug 18, 2008 12:46 PM:
This is nuts wrote on Aug 18, 2008 11:56 AM:
Bush and the Congress acted on intellegence that was inaccurate, this information was brought to light by intelllegence that was created by experts affiliated with both parties. The intellegence departments are not cleaned out with each new president to purify them politically.
I don't disagree that oil and auto are have been in bed and they lobbied, which has bought off the dem's and repub's in congress, the fix is called term limits! All politicians fall victim to greed, it's only a matter of time!
You have to read the books written about your hero Obama, if they are not the truth, where are the slander suits, injunctions ect.? Obama is a disaster in the wings, his supporters are blinded of the facts. "
Razors Edge wrote on Aug 18, 2008 11:55 AM:
I just have a few questions. First, do you realize that not everyone can afford a hybrid? Second, even if someone sells their old car that gets 20 mph for a Prius that gets 50 mpg for say $17,000 difference ($22K - 5K for old car) it would take them 85,000 miles to make up the difference (50/20 = 2.5 gallons difference times $4/gallon = $10 more every 50 miles). An average person drives of 12K a year it would take them a little over 7 years to recoup their investment. When they do that their car is not worth that $22K anymore, and that doesn't include any repairs to the car.
So do you really want $5-$6 gas? Maybe you can afford it, but that doesn't mean everyone else can or maybe you want to bankrupt America? So please get off your high horse. I can guarantee you I use less gas then you do, and I don't drive a hybrid. "
Dew wrote on Aug 18, 2008 11:20 AM:
You all are so correct! This placing 'blame' on the Reublicans is really getting quite old! Do these people, like Ben Hanson and the posters on here, (dante-Bill ) that complain about the 'oil men in the whitehouse' think the price of oil will go down when Bush and Cheney are no longer in there? I got news for them, 90% of Congress has money in....... guess what....OIL! No wonder they don't want to drill anywhere, where there IS oil, as 'This is nuts' says, .....they don't want to lose money on THEIR investments! "
The other side of the coin wrote on Aug 18, 2008 10:40 AM:
BILL G-A-R-R wrote on Aug 18, 2008 10:04 AM:
Sean wrote on Aug 18, 2008 9:25 AM:
This is nuts wrote on Aug 18, 2008 9:16 AM:
Oil prices are, like everything, supply and demand based, the reaction time isn't the same as wheat but it does react. If the Dem's would quit preventing access to huge known oil reserves the U.S. could increase the world supply and lower the price at the pump.
The excuse for not opening up known oil fields has been that there are millions of untouched acres already open, fact is they were touched. Tests showed little if any recoverable oil on the acres the Dem's want the oil companies to drill. Maybe the Dem's should finance the drilling on these lands with their own money.
The reason we have a huge deficit is we are at war, isn't that what happens when you spend billions of dollars on a war? We really need to get that money back from oil rich Iraq, but we also need to open up everything we have, to buy us the time to implement the consevation technologies that we have known for years. "
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