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Hoeven seeks third term

Sep 25, 2007 - 12:56:43 CDT

By Tribune Staff and Wire reports

Gov. John Hoeven has decided to seek re-election, embarking on a bid to become the first governor in North Dakota history to be elected to three four-year terms, according to an aide.

In a statement Tuesday, Hoeven said one of his senior aides, Don Larson, has taken a leave of absence to run his re-election campaign. Larson has served for three years as a communications and policy aide to the governor.

Hoeven, 50, said he will make an official re-election announcement later this year. Larson told the Bismarck Tribune that Hoeven is definitely running for re-election.

A former president of the Bank of North Dakota, Hoeven was elected governor in 2000, defeating Democratic Attorney General Heidi Heitkamp.

He cruised to re-election in 2004, defeating former Democratic state Sen. Joe Satrom, D-Bismarck, with more than 70 percent of the vote.

Fargo state Sen. Tim Mathern, a former Democratic Senate floor leader, is the only Democrat so far to publicly declare that he is considering a bid for the party's endorsement for governor.

No governor in North Dakota history has been elected to three four-year terms. Former Gov. Arthur Link, a Democrat, ran for a third term in 1980, but lost to Republican Allen Olson.

The only person to serve 12 years as North Dakota's governor is Democrat William Guy, who was governor from 1960 to 1972. The governor's term lengthened from two to four years in 1964.

Hoeven's first campaign was managed by Carol Olson, who is now director of the state Department of Human Services. His 2004 re-election bid was directed by Cory Fong, whom Hoeven later appointed as state tax commissioner.

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To george wrote on Oct 5, 2007 7:30 AM:

" You've got lots of figures and numbers, but for some reason 'ND Transplant' is just making a more credible argument. Your numbers might look good, but the peoples' bank books sure don't. "

ND Transplant wrote on Oct 4, 2007 4:05 PM:

" Poor George, you really should either read more slowly or get a dictionary. I have no problems, so get off my duff is a dismaying remark. We have a mid six figure income, which is derviced from sources outside ND. No, my duff and the problems are the struggles I see my neighbors, particularly the younger ones struggle with. Things like needing a minimum income, as published by DHs of $38,000.00 for a family of four, just to be able to provide heat in the winter months for thier families. A crime rate that is quickly spirialing out of control. If you keep appraised of the ND news george, you will know that Minot and Farho alone are going to top the numbers of murders that occured state wide last year. Interesting, but the tax credit is just another way to make it appear that our legislators made a tax break for us. The only real way to create property tax releif is the way California did it, freeze property taxes, completely. I used to be a card carry conservative member of the republican party until i moved to North dakota, now I am not sure what I am as hoeven and his republican party are nothing more than democrats playing republican dress up. I love North dakota, I am just greatful I didn't have to figure out how to make a decent living here. I truly feel sorry for the lower and middle(?)income residents here. They have no choice but to depend on public asisstance to provide for thier families. Nope, no way are hoevenomics good for the young adults of North Dakota, "

To duaner wrote on Oct 4, 2007 6:01 AM:

" How did Hoeven's property tax cuts operate exactly? People need the facts to make up their mind. "

george wrote on Oct 3, 2007 11:53 PM:

" ND Transplant: You might want to do your homework. The property tax relief was not given to your local government. They would just spend it. The property tax relief will come directly to you when you file your income taxes. It is an income tax credit. As for your economic situation, get off your duff. There are lots of good jobs in ND right now. Quit blaming someone else for your problems. "

george wrote on Oct 3, 2007 11:48 PM:

" Totem: I think you will find what you are looking for at http://www.ndcommerce.com/development/index.html "

duaner wrote on Oct 3, 2007 9:22 PM:

" ND Transplant, Hoeven and the legislature cut property taxes by 10% across the board. If taxes went up, maybe the blame should go to the local governments who actually levy the property taxes. "

To North Dakota Transplant wrote on Oct 3, 2007 3:43 PM:

" It's a brilliant scheme. The home-builders' lobby and the banking lobby have created the present tax system, where everyone is house-poor, but everyone who needs a house built needs to borrow from a bank to build it. "

ND Transplant wrote on Oct 2, 2007 2:04 PM:

" Interesting posts as of late. I was particularly intrigued by the claims that Hoeven and the NDGOP cut taxes. yep, they did a great job cutting taxes on paper. Too bad us residents in the rural areas of the state aren't seeing any of those cuts. Mil levy values increased which just showed on paper a slight property tax increase in actual dollars up here. The NDGOp, apparently so concerned with hoeven's out of control spending have formed a committee to look at the budget. More expense for us tax payers due to additional meeting fees for the legislatures. A family of four is at the public assistance threshaold with a 38,000.00 a year income level, and DHS is housing foster children in violation of the NDCC so they can get federal funds (taxpayer monies) as administartive feees to keep the largest employer in the state running. Our law makers don't care, and all we as citizens get from our government is how well the State is doing and hoeven is a savior. Only one this savior has benefitted is big business. an Old saying: liars figure but figures don't lie. Our bank accounts hold the truth. "

Totem wrote on Oct 2, 2007 8:27 AM:

" Well, with the headline today being 'Economy in the State is Booming' my guess is that will become the consolidating forum for these ongoing discussions. Now, if only they served breakfast ; ) "

Totem wrote on Oct 2, 2007 7:05 AM:

" George - I remember the plan you are talking about. Can you provide a link to it? Thanks. "

Totem wrote on Oct 2, 2007 6:46 AM:

" If I remember correctly, and it's been some time since I saw reports, the 'gross domestic product' in ND from agriculture was around 5% with employment being about the same. That always strikes people as surprisingly low. Someone please correct me if you can link to a better number. Some sectors like health care, professional services (legal, insurance, real estate, etc), government, retail and maybe even manufacturing have higher numbers as stand-alone categories. "

ND Transplant wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:00 AM:

" This mornings Grand forks Hearld had an article on fuel assistance. According to program administrator Ron Knutson the threshold to qualify for this program is as follows; "To qualify for help, a family of four can earn up to $35,956". Now, I wonder, based upon the median ihousehold income of the state, just how many families actually can qualify for this program? The middle and lower income residents of this state are really propering under John Hoeven. "

JB wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:59 AM:

" Question to anyone who knows: What's the income percentage, number of workers, etc., that come directly out of agricultural production in ND? I know it's by far the lion's share of the economy, but does anyone have any 'already-crunched' numbers that would make sense to the average person? What do farmers bring into the state in $$$ vs. oil, banking, service jobs, etc.? "

JB wrote on Oct 1, 2007 6:05 AM:

" To George: Anyone can trot out statistics to muddy the waters. Who said anything about 50 years of decline? You mean, since 1957, ND has been on the downswing? These new jobs and businesses that you mention in ND don't answer the questions as to why the population is shrinking and wages are below the national average. As far as the dangers of making radical, OR minor, tax changes, S.D. and Montana have made changes to their tax codes, and their economies are thriving. "

george wrote on Sep 30, 2007 11:40 PM:

" To JB and Totem: What you both seem to miss is that what you advocate is precisely what is going on in North Dakota. There is a comprehensive strategic plan to grow and diversify our state's economy. It was put in place in 2001. And it is working. Incomes are growing faster than the national average. We have moved from 85% to 91% of the national income average. Virtually every segment of the economy is growing. We even have 25,000 more jobs and 2,000 more businesses. Now that the economy is cooking, Gov. Hoeven and the NDGOP legislature can cut taxes and fund essential priorities like education. And that is exactly what they did last session. And I believe we will see even more tax cuts next session. But it all has to make sense...today and tomorrow. Radical tax plans have been a disaster in California and Colorado. A balanced approach yields long term sustainable tax cuts that don't shift the burden to other taxes and fees and cripple critical government services. No fix can undo 50 years of decline overnight, but we are finally making real progress. "

JB wrote on Sep 30, 2007 8:48 PM:

" To Totem: Yes, it was a badly constructed paragraph on my part. I did commingle my comments. I was trying to respond to George AND, at the same time, get your thoughts on some of the ideas being brought up. "

Totem wrote on Sep 30, 2007 8:21 PM:

" JB: Rereading your last post (To George) it seems your comments to George and also your referencing my suggestions might have been commingled. In which case my last post would have responded in a way that was also commingled. (Is that confusing enough? I'm confused ; ) in any case, I agree with you that a long-term comprehensive plan with clear objectives and measurements is the only dilligent way to proceed. My apology in advance if I misunderstood. "

Totem wrote on Sep 30, 2007 8:05 PM:

" JB: Actually, my exact words were, "Redesigning the tax structure to encourage workers and businesses to move into ND, and deploying the surplus in ways that create long-term growth and raise the general wage and salary levels would do wonders for ND." Those objectives are a starting point, not an ending point. Nothing one-time, piece-meal, half-hearted, or jump-start about any of it if it's done right. "

Seriously wrote on Sep 30, 2007 11:29 AM:

" what the heck is wrong with everyone? do some of you think that electing a different governor is going to instantly change alcohol problems, drug use, and people moving out of the state? sure any governor can do things to help the situation but why don't people do things themselves to help our state out? people complain about the government being too involved in their lives but a lot of people are quick to blame the government for not doing things to help now. besides, isn't this a democracy? i think that means if you have the answers then you should run for public office. the only real problem we seem to have all of a sudden is a bunch of people whining but not willing to do anything about it themselves! "

JB wrote on Sep 30, 2007 10:52 AM:

" To George: Totem suggested a complete restructuring of the tax code and deploying the surplus to encourage growth. Sustainable tax cuts is a pretty vague concept and spending on one-time projects sounds like a piece meal, half-hearted attempt to jump-start growth. The state needs a comprehensive economic development plan, beyond just shipping the college grads out and the meth-heads in, in order to maintain the current 'plantation' style economic system. Totem sounds like an economic conservative who lives in-state. I'd like to hear some specifics from him. "

george wrote on Sep 30, 2007 9:15 AM:

" JB: Here is the facts on North Dakota's bonding and borrowing. Hoeven hasn't been bonding and borrowing. In fact, last session he and the legislature used some of the surplus to pay for millions in one time projects. Most of these projects would have been bonded in the past. gg: You are wrong about income taxes. North Dakota can't get rid of state income taxes without huge cuts in funding for education and local governments. In fact, even cutting them in half, would cause huge shortfalls in 4 years. The money you count on to fund your elimination has been an accumulation over four years. Once that is gone, we would need to dramatically cut spending or raise taxes again. Susatinable tax cuts is the way to go and that is what the legislature did last time and, I believe, will do again next session. "

Online Editor wrote on Sep 28, 2007 2:17 PM:

" To Deb: Thanks for the heads up, that one slipped passed the goalie. "

gg wrote on Sep 28, 2007 11:11 AM:

" To lets not forget, i think people were more upset that he resigned to make more money in the private sector. Most would be more understanding if an elected official goes for a different elected office. At least then he is serving the people not serving his own interests. "

JB wrote on Sep 28, 2007 9:55 AM:

" I don't keep up on tax issues, but given one or two of the posts below, you might want to consider using some of the surplus to pay down the borrowing and bonding that Hoeven's been doing. "

gg wrote on Sep 28, 2007 8:06 AM:

" Here is what I don't get. We have all of this surplus money, way more than enough to get rid of the state income tax and still have a surplus. Doing this would put us on an even playing field with Montana and SD. Why don't we do it? If he would support meaningful tax breaks and not the joke they passed last session, I would feel better about supporting him. "

Let's not Forget wrote on Sep 27, 2007 10:51 PM:

" Lots of people had a fit when Poolman resigned as Insurance Commissioner and they were saying that if we elect someone they should serve out their terms. Well it is rumored and that Hoeven is thinking about running for congress in 2010. I hope all you that thought it was wrong for Poolman to step down in midterm remember this when you go vote for governor. I for one will not vote for Hoeven again because he has not impressed me. The only reason we have a surplus is the fact that agriculture and the oilfield are doing well, this has nothing to do with Hoeven. Now if he had gone out and recruited some big corps like Intel, Ford, or some other big corp that brought in hundreds of high paying jobs, meaning those above $40k or $50k then I would give him credit for the surplus. But not at this point for what he has done. He has also refused to tackle some of the bigger issues the state faces. "

Get it right wrote on Sep 27, 2007 10:33 PM:

" So Hoeven would be the first governor to be elected to 3 4-year terms. Hardly a first if you look at what governor has served the longest. Bill Guy was in office for 12 years (1961-1973), elected for 2 2-year terms and 2 4-year terms. He still has one up on Hoeven as far as being elected 4 times and I must say, did much more for the state than Hoeven has done. What a Guy! Not a governor since has done has good! "

JB wrote on Sep 27, 2007 9:45 PM:

" What are the residency requirements for candidates? "

Thomas Elliot wrote on Sep 27, 2007 8:24 PM:

" ND has it's problems but I'd like to suggest, as an imigrant, that compared to other places in the US, this is a Sunday picnic in the park. Its the people not the politicians that make North Dakota the last sane place to live. "

Quit Stalling? wrote on Sep 27, 2007 7:19 PM:

" To: ND Transplant wrote on Sep 27, 2007 4:41 PM: . . . Maybe the Republicans in North Dakota should look for someone who really represents family values - someone like Republican Senator Larry Craig? "

ND Transplant wrote on Sep 27, 2007 5:36 PM:

" Wow, someone that agrees with me...you are right, jobs and the cleaning up of corruption are the first things our next Govenor needs to do...maybe start with eliminating those cabinet positions that run the ND Agencies...places like DHS...those executive Administartive jobs need to go to qualifed individuals, not as rewards for campaign loyalty...take DHS for example...it is out of control under the current executive director. her educational back ground, public adminisitration works well for looking after buildings, bridges and roadways, but not for dealing with human services issues. And now, look what she has learned from hoeven...last year she created "cabinet positions' in DHS...now that is agood way to run a human services agency...like she is a polititian... and our State legislature just let it happen. yes, you are right, we need to clean up the corruption and dumping the free spending and political rewarding Hoeven should be the first to go...who knows what Larson's fat reward, at the tax payer's expense, will be. "

To ND Transplant wrote on Sep 27, 2007 4:59 PM:

" I think its really a chicken and egg thing. Once you've struggled to get out, your out and you dont want to go back and start over gain. qualified candidates would have to figure out a way to get home, get thos jobs that they have elsewhere so they could runn for office. That doesn't happen overnite. The legislature needs to start creating jobs and cleaning up the corrption first! "

ND Transplant wrote on Sep 27, 2007 4:41 PM:

" I keep reading in the "ND is thriving under Hoeven" ostriches that if you don't like it here, move...wow, that would definately hamper the local economy. We take our tax base, substanial for a state income tax, and then what, expect one of the high salaried folks in my rural county to by my home and business investments properties? What a laugh...If Hoeven is so great, why is the crime rate spirialing out of control, drug and alcohol use is rampant, DHS is spending 1.7 Billion in public program monies, and rural counties are disappearing? No, I think ND needs us transplants to survive...good thing our business isn't dependent of any income from ND. In any event, the only problem I have with Hoeven running is I can't support the Republican Party here. They are nothing but a bunch of Democrats hiding out in the GOP. It's a shame there is no worthy candidate for my conservative right wing contributions to go. Let's find someone with family values that can manage a state without completely depending on federal aid to support his adminsitrations policies. "

gg wrote on Sep 27, 2007 4:25 PM:

" They are bringing the bacon home to ND at what cost to our national deficit and taxpayer dollars? I wouldn't mind someone in there who was a bit more conciencious about their spending habits rather than bring the bacon home for my constituants. that's not just our delagation or picking on one party. Every one of those who are supposed to be representing us from the executive to the legislative branch is doing it, the people need to put a stop to it before the country is broke. "

MamaMia wrote on Sep 27, 2007 3:06 PM:

" To Reader: I think Team Dakota are in their prime at this particular time. I hope, though, that they will not do what their predecessors did, (i.e. Uncle Miltie and Uncle Quentin) which was to egotistically stay on until dementia or Alzheimers and infirmity took them over and aides were making all the decisions and putting their fingers on the vote buttons. That was truly disgraceful and it crossed party lines, so I'm not picking on any party here. Dorgan got his fingers slapped but good for kindly suggesting to Uncle Quentin it was time to wrap it up, so I hope he remembers that and does the right thing when his time comes. They are bringin' the bacon home for ND, and that's what it's apparently all about, so I hope they all rock on for years to come. "

Reader- to MamaMia wrote on Sep 27, 2007 2:27 PM:

" Keep voting for those Democrats in congress. Even Republicans like me do that because they are good men who are not afraid to jump the party line on votes when it is in the best interest of ND. And their seniority gives us an edge in getting things we need here. BUT: It is time for at least one of them to be done. Right now Conrad & Dorgan have positions on important committees because of their seniority. Pomeroy is also listened to more often. If they all leave at once it will put us in an even more vulnerable position then now. "

MamaMia wrote on Sep 27, 2007 1:16 PM:

" Rettev: Have you ever heard of the term "alter-ego"? Look it up. And hey, will you calm down a little? Zip it on the all caps. You're giving all of us a headache! P.S. I've probably kicked your sorry you-know-what out of my classes many times! "

Moved Away the Second Time wrote on Sep 27, 2007 12:52 PM:

" I left ND because there are no jobs in industry for for professionals. I laugh at the walmarts and sams club. If this what it takes to grow the towns in ND then the state will suffer in the long run. What is needed is industries to keep engineers and chemists in the state. Gov. Hoeven is catering to the industries that are already in place. These industries do not like competition. Whenever a new thought for industry is brought up the CEO's from the ND Industries are meeting with the Gov to put a stop on it. To me ND is a joke because you voteds the wrong person in. "

ddk wrote on Sep 27, 2007 12:22 PM:

" to rettev: So what is that direction Bismarck is moving in. I know, we got two new Super Walmarts, a Sam's Club and a Kohls. Created all those great High paying minimum wage jobs. So is moving in the right direction having the third highest real eastate taxes in the nation. Is moving in the right direction having the highest gas prices in the nation. Please, please ,please, explain the moving in the right direction comment. "

gg wrote on Sep 27, 2007 12:13 PM:

" Alright, one runs a summer lawn mowing business if you can believe it. He is making enough doing that, so that he actually quit teaching this year becuase he makes more mowing grass! Some others have been waitresses or done other side jobs. "

rettev wrote on Sep 27, 2007 11:08 AM:

" MamaMia; So you teach? Where? I WANT TO MAKE SURE MY DAUGHTER ISN'T SITTING IN YOUR CLASSROOM!!! I've been reading your posts for a long time now, I have to ask again.... You are a teacher? God help us.... "

rettev wrote on Sep 27, 2007 10:59 AM:

" YOU GUYS DON'T DON'T KNOW A GOOD THING IF IT JUMPED UP AND SLAPPED YOU IN THE FACE! YOUR GOV. IS NOT THE PROBLEM, RE-ELECT HIM! THE PROBLEM IS YOUR SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES, DORGAN, POMEROY? THOSE GUYS GOTTA GO! THE ONLY REASON THEY KEEP GETTING ELECTED IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A TON OF MONEY TO RUN ON, NOBODY CAN BEAT THEM. THAT AND OLDER PEOPLE VOTING, THEY DON'T LIKE CHANGE. BISMARCK IS FINALLY MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY, YOU PUT A STOP TO IT! RIGHT?!?! RIGHT?!?!? SHEESH... "

Get Real gg! wrote on Sep 27, 2007 9:29 AM:

" You write ".... friends and family who teach ..... make more at their summer jobs than .... a full year of teaching." Please and I say please tell me what those summer jobs are; as I would like to apply for the same. Nine months off rather than three. "

MamaMia wrote on Sep 27, 2007 9:13 AM:

" Ladybug: (Hey! That's my daughter's nickname!) I need to make a point of clarification with you. I am a teacher. If I teach nine months, I get paid for nine months, if I teach 10, 11, or 12 months (which I sometimes can) I get paid extra for that. If I have a non-contracted day, say the day after Thanksgiving or the Christmas vacation days that are not official holidays, I do not get paid for those days. My contract is based on 180 days and I get paid for that. Just so you know that teachers don't get paid for the summer months for which they are "laid off" (we don't choose to have summers off, you know.) "

ddk wrote on Sep 27, 2007 9:06 AM:

" Did you all know that our Govenor is a Graduate of Dartmouth, the place that they held the Democratic Debates last night? Look at their web site, it cost not less than $200,000 to get a four year degree from that institution. Now even though the Govenor attened some 30 years ago, I would assume it cost him at least $100,000 to attend. Typical cost of and education for typical middle class North Dakotans. NOT!!!! The Gov.comes from wealth. Do you think that he ever worried about his next paycheck coming in to cover expenses? If you do then maybe you would like to buy some land in Florida. We need someone, who is aware, and has experienced the needs, requirements and stress of the middle class working people who pay taxes and try to put aside enough to educated their children and save for retirement. The Gov. has no clue what that is like. Nice guy, but clueless as to the reality of the middle class. "

North Dakotan wrote on Sep 27, 2007 6:55 AM:

" Typical liberal nonsense. We're at war, people! This isn't the top for voting, it is the time for decisive action. We can't be hamstring our leaders by forcing them to hedge their action to appeal to the namby-pamby demographic. I say we suspend elections indefinitely while we root out the *only* important issue facing us today: the terrorists. "

gg wrote on Sep 26, 2007 11:34 PM:

" You know Ladybug, I read your comment about teacher pay and it really upsets me the more I read it. I have had friends and family who teach and they can make more at their summer jobs than they do for a full year of teaching. How is that right? They teach all winter with few personal days and school holidays while you get to take your one or two weeks of vacation every year. While you take your summer trip to who knows where, teachers are working summer jobs, teaching summer school, or tutoring to make extra money. Again I say, if you think it is such a great job and life, perhaps you should go back to school and get your teaching degree and get a job as a teacher. "

gg wrote on Sep 26, 2007 11:25 PM:

" Personally I don't like Joel Heitkamp either, but he is correct on why we have a surplus of money in this state. It is relatively easy to correlate the surplus with the start of the oil boom. As for teachers pay, I see one comment thinks they make too much money? Well if you think they get paid so well, maybe you shoudl go back to school and be a teach, get your summer off and spend that summer working a second job to make ends meet. We are fortunate to have great teachers in this state when they can go almost anywhere else and make more money. I believe John and Mikey are probably very nice and well meaning people and at least he has had the good sense to keep his fingers out of the booming energy production and just allow the state to collect it's taxes. Something I fear Heidi or her contemporaries would probably mess up. But I still say he could do more for tax relief and for this state. We shouldn't settle for mediocre, we should demand better. I don't think either mainstream party can offer that. "

We need a new Governor! wrote on Sep 26, 2007 7:25 PM:

" Our so called Governor has does nothing for the middle class people. The cost of living has gone up beyond belief over the years, and our wages from the average employer truly stinks. Trying to find a job in Bismarck-Mandan which pays over $10 a hour is near to impossible....even with a college degree. The gallon of milk is over $3.50 and $3.25 a gallon for gasoline...not much of a incentive for the middle class families to feel they are getting their wages for an average days work in ND is truly worth it. Hopefully, we get a new Governor into office and he/she will make a difference in the ND lives of the middle class society. "

ladybug wrote on Sep 26, 2007 6:13 PM:

" firstly - nobody should use Joel Heitkamp as an authority on anything other than bologna. secondly - i know teachers who make nearly twice what i do with them on nine-month contracts and me on a 12-month. as for a problem with the voting system, if everything is so slanted to the Republicans, why are we still stuck with Conrad, Dorgan and Pomeroy? Hoeven is one of the few politicans people can stand and has done some great things for this state. there are a lot of people responsible for the problems around here. i, for one, was relieved when he announced he would run again. he's good for North Dakota and if you don't like it - MOVE! "

MamaMia wrote on Sep 26, 2007 1:05 PM:

" Hoeven isn't exactly exciting, but then what ND governor has been? (Okay, maybe Wild Bill Langer). He's been good to teachers, I'll say that for him. He once thought he was a Democrat, so he probably still has a kernel of goodness in him. (Ha, Ha, Humor Impaired People, I'm making a JOKE there, get it?) I thought Ed Schafer was kind of cool, with his love of old cars and rock and roll. I went to high school with him, and although I was younger and didn't know him on a personal basis, I never heard anyone say anything bad about him. So, I guess if Hoeven gets elected again as just another caretaker Governor (that's really all we'ver ever had) that's okay with me, but of course, I'll always vote for the Democrat -- it's my duty. "

Callie wrote on Sep 26, 2007 10:21 AM:

" Good points made here about what has really happened in ND (vs. the propaganda). Check the true statistics. Poor wages, low teacher salaries, high teenage drinking, etc. Yes, Hoeven's done quite a lot for ND. Also, the fact that there is discussion on looks gives you insight on some of the people voting, and why the Hoevens would be popular. I wonder what would happen if people did true research, and based their decisions on that? "

To Laugh? wrote on Sep 26, 2007 9:43 AM:

" You say "if the Governor is ... bad ... he won't be re-elected." The last time I saw any stats, two thirds of the State vote for the Reps; except on the national level where we North Dakotans keep the Dems. Wow, the Dems bring in the money and the ND Reps pat themselves on the back while they spend. What's this all about? A change in political strategies? "

Remember The Snow Angels! wrote on Sep 26, 2007 9:23 AM:

" Accomplishments? Under Hooven the people came together, lifted their arms in homage and WOW, a new record! "

ddk wrote on Sep 26, 2007 8:48 AM:

" To Joe C. Thank you for your campaign ad. Fact of the matter is the Legislature did all the things you refer to not John. His own legislative party member were disappointed in his budget. Facts: The US population has double since 1977, ND zero growth. Tell me about those 25,000 new jobs at Walmart, and Burger King and Taco Johns. Show me the real true statistics. Who benefits from the tax credit for so called real estate tax relief. The rich of course, you should know that you and your rich buddies. Fact, college tuition has double, real estate taxes doubled. Why have real estate taxes double, because state and federal funding of local programs has gone away requiring local govenments to increase taxes. Lets sit on that surplus and keep increasing taxes. We have them all, high real estate taxes, sales tax, income tax, high fuel tax. What a wonderful state. It is time for new leadership, including legislature memebers. We spend more time dealing with hunting issues then we do with taking care of the fiscal responsibilities we sent them to Bismarck for. "

Laugh wrote on Sep 26, 2007 8:45 AM:

" You libs make me laugh! You should have nothing to worry about. If the Governor is as bad as you say he is he won't be re-elected. Maybe you should concentrate on the bozos in your own party. "

gg wrote on Sep 26, 2007 7:33 AM:

" By the way Joe C, if he is so great for higher education, why do I find myself needing to come up with more money out of my pocket for my kids college? And if the money didn't come from oil, where exactly do you think it came from? Look at the tax base and you will see. "

gg wrote on Sep 26, 2007 7:31 AM:

" Joe C I can tell you I am no democrat. As for the economy, look back. When did we start having surpluses? It correlates to the oil boom! Even Joel Heitkamp has stated as much on his radio show! I don't like the man but he is right on this one. 25000 jobs? Well how many have been lost since Hoeven was elected? How many people have left this state? I will grant you, the local officials are the ones that raised property taxes, but you can't tell me the legislature couldn't see that coming. I know I certainly did! If Hoeven and the legislature wanted real tax relief, they would have lowered income taxes and cut the amount of spending last session! He put 200 million in to education, how much of that did the teachers get? The answer is not much. He has a new program called the talent initiative, basically government officials run around the state trying to figure out how to get people to move here for different industries. Here is a clue, get them to pay higher wages! DON'T waste my tax money by hiring three people to drive all over the state trying to discover how to get people back here. "

Your all Nuts!!! wrote on Sep 26, 2007 7:26 AM:

" To georgesomething: I gave an opinion on him being considered cute- and then I was giving an opinion on all the Mikey Hoeven posts---Did you not like my opinion? As for the last part in my post about him saving his own butt while affecting another family- then hey set me straight, do not just come in here and bash me on MY OPINION, hiding behind your screen name - YOU COWARD. (also that was the first name calling I did, stating Jon looks mousey is not calling him a name) Have a nice day George;) "

Nick wrote on Sep 26, 2007 6:53 AM:

" Let's see ... Hoeven won his second election with more than 70% of the vote. He's the most popular governor in the nation according to a recent poll that pegged his approval rating among North Dakotan's at somewhere in the high 70% (you can find it on google). A lot of people must be happy with what he is doing. Mikey does a lot of good things for the people of ND; good for her, regardless of her political party (you can find that info on google, too). My guess would be potential opponents of any level of seriousness will wait to run until 2012. "

georgesomething wrote on Sep 26, 2007 5:31 AM:

" To All Nuts...grow up. Your name calling and mudslinging is petty and juvenile. And the fact that you do it behind an anonymous name makes you a coward. "

Joe C. wrote on Sep 26, 2007 5:25 AM:

" gg...I doubt you are a re real conservative. You sound like a Dem partisan hack trying to sound like a conservative. Regardless, get your facts straight. The state didn't raise your local property taxes, your local elected officials did. The state did pass a 10% property tax credit for $120 million in relief...the largest in state history. The state did increase funding for education by $200 million since Hoeven was first elected and total aid to local cities, counties and schools to over $1.2 billion both of which offsets local taxes. As for spending, North Dakota has a two year budget. The increase the legislature passed was 7.5% annually for ongoing expenses (less than ongoing revenue) and 5% for one time expenses. The economy is booming, not just because of oil, but virtually every sector is growing. Since Hoeven was first elected, North Dakota has gained 25,000 more jobs and incomes are rising faster than the national average. "

Jim St Jim wrote on Sep 26, 2007 2:28 AM:

" I am predicting an infidelity issue with this Gov. Sex scandals seem to be the norm for republicans this year. Sit back and watch. "

Jim S wrote on Sep 26, 2007 1:44 AM:

" John has been great for ND. Pleanty of Jobs, wages are up, economy is robust. 4 more years. "

abc wrote on Sep 26, 2007 12:46 AM:

" WE are fortunate to have Governor Hoven as our State's chief executive. Best wishes during his reelection campaign. "

ENOUGH wrote on Sep 25, 2007 11:36 PM:

" We need a new governor. At least one who cares more about people than photo ops for himself. "

Your all Nuts!!! wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:46 PM:

" John Hoeven is NOT cute- he looks mousey.....And Mikey Hoeven makes me want to hearl everytime I hear or see her TV add- Your kids want you to talk to them about drinking.....REALLY???? I just took mine out to the pen to have them talk with the inmates about drinking- they wanted to talk to me???? ARE WE AS STUPID AS MIKEY HOEVEN THINKS AND ACTS LIKE WE ARE?????? Did Mr Hoeven blame something on a member of his party- she got fired, to protect his own butt---Upstanding citizen if you ask me! "

gg wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:10 PM:

" to purple oms, I am a joke? No I am a conservative who is honestly really really disapointed in hoeven and his republican counterparts. We have soaring surpluses becuase of the oil industry but can they give us tax breaks? No, instead they spend spend spend and pass a joke of a bill they call property tax relief, but I get no releif becasue the city just raised my taxes! Hoeven takes credit for getting businesses like alien technologies and imation here. Imation left and alien as reported today is not growing as promised. Taxes are up, crime is up, drug use is up, binge drinking is up, people are leaving the state for bigger and better things and what has hoeven done to stop this? NOTHING! Before the oil boom and the lottery, he tried to brag about the low unemployment rate. Well yeah it was low, becuase everyone was leaving the state! Now his great plan is to get people to move back for jobs paying a whopping minum 30k per year? Lets get somone in who will lower taxes and quit wasting my money. "

Joe C. wrote on Sep 25, 2007 9:42 PM:

" Since John Hoeven implemented his economic policies North Dakota wages have grown faster than the national average, there are 25,000 more jobs, and virtually EVERY sector of North Dakota's economy is growing. This economic growth has allowed the state to increase eduction funding by over $200 million, higher ed by over $100 million and provide the largest tax relief package ($120 million last session) in ND history. The list just goes on and on. "

georgesomething wrote on Sep 25, 2007 9:30 PM:

" Gotta love these two faced partisan hacks. If ND is so bad, maybe you should look at Byron, Kent and Earl who have been in office since I was a kid. "

Corrupt Voting Machines! wrote on Sep 25, 2007 8:46 PM:

" I think the voting system in North Dakota is as corrupt and mismanaged as the voting system (Diebold) in Florida and Ohio when G.W. Bush won those states. Republicans keep winning in North Dakota although there is an overwhelming majority of people who vote for the Democratic Party. There is something fishy with our voting system. It doesn' smell right! It reeks of elephant dung. "

Native wrote on Sep 25, 2007 8:29 PM:

" Where is Heidi? "

Citizen wrote on Sep 25, 2007 8:25 PM:

" To Go John Go, so you are going to vote for him because “he’s cute,” well he may be cute but there is nothing in that brain behind his face. Speaking of brains, someone who would vote for anyone simply because he/she is cute, well what can I say? "

To DDK wrote on Sep 25, 2007 8:19 PM:

" One good thing?? He kept a democrat out of the governors mansion. That a good thing S "

hugo wrote on Sep 25, 2007 7:59 PM:

" i agree with Hef, throw the john out and yes to mikey! "

Go Get 'Em wrote on Sep 25, 2007 7:29 PM:

" It is great to see someone in politics who has continually run positive campaigns based on the issues. It is unfortunate that the North Dakota Democrats are following their national party down the road of negativity and divisiveness. Go get 'em John. "

Go Get Em wrote on Sep 25, 2007 6:35 PM:

To Purple OMS wrote on Sep 25, 2007 6:28 PM:

" I agree - Hoevan has done MORE TO HURT THIS STATE than any other Governor. Maybe you should quit throwing out words and start quoting facts. Yes, Jealous Minnesotan stated a few items - completely ignored a stagnant, high tax, low paying, high cost of living state that has numerous problems that are just getting worse - and he does nothing but postulate. So Jealous Minnesotan stated a few items - you have stated nothing but verbiage that is meaningless and a waste of time and energy. You need to GROW UP AND OPEN YOUR EYES!!!! You're a total fool to believe blindly in the face of facts facts facts. "

Go John Go wrote on Sep 25, 2007 6:24 PM:

" He's cute! "

To Purple OMS wrote on Sep 25, 2007 6:22 PM:

" from "To Purple OMS" - can you counter one thing that's been identified in my post - soaring taxes, high drug use, low wages, you people leaving, towns dying, high gasoline prices, 15% crime increase, highest teen drinking state - can you counter one of these things as being untrue? Then tell me - what has Hoeven done? You keep saying he's great and gives his LIFE but you can't give a good solid counter to any of the issues anyone brings up. "

Guess Again wrote on Sep 25, 2007 6:14 PM:

" Wow, a lot of post from the many with their heads in the sand. I'd gladly trade places with you jealous Mn...bet your property value is higher than mine, public assistance spending per capita is lower than here, your personal income levels are higher than here, all your State Agencies heads worked for thier positions and didn't get them for helping someone win an election, and your govenor is more than the mayor of a state a mid-sized city. Take away the federal subsidies that this state can't survive without and the state would be broke. Eliminate all the federal funding for foster care, ooopppps, guess you didn't know we ranked right up there as one of the largest per capita, along with the drug and alcohol treatment monies, and DHS wouldn't be able to stay afloat and be the largest employer in the state. So much for Hoeven and his growth policies. Hoeven is an opportunist who walked into a natural growth period in this state and wants to take credit for it. His fiscal policies are so questionable that even his own party that controls the legislature, has seen a need to set up a committee to try and control it. With this country quickly falling into a resession, another four years of hoeven will be a huge mistake for our city, imean great state. "

Hoeven in '08 wrote on Sep 25, 2007 5:41 PM:

" I believe that Hoeven has done a amazing job and he should run again. I'm proud to be from ND and having him at the wheel makes it even better to be from this state. Everyone that thinks otherwise can try and run against him. He will get the votes and you'll just have to deal with it. He does have my vote!! "

Need to move on wrote on Sep 25, 2007 5:17 PM:

" Hoeven is lucky the congressional delegation does all his work for him. Then he takes the credit for it. It's time for a new governor who will do something. "

No more Hoeven wrote on Sep 25, 2007 5:03 PM:

" We need a new direction for ND. Hoeven has had his time to raise taxes and raise tuition. No more Hoeven. "

Independent wrote on Sep 25, 2007 5:00 PM:

" Personal income growth may be up, but wages are still the lowest in the country. People leave because of this. Hoeven is responsible! "

Purple wrote on Sep 25, 2007 4:56 PM:

" to: "to Purple OMS" He has devoted his LIFE for the last 7 years!! WAKE UP! Read what the Jealous Minnesotan wrote about what he has done, if you are to stupid to figure it out for yourself. And then go search the internet, he has done more for this state than any other Governor there has ever been., but you go ahead and keep complaining and making up things. What have you done for the good of the state???? "

A Jealous Minnesotan wrote on Sep 25, 2007 4:50 PM:

" HELLO DDK!!!! Hit the refresh button and read my previous post! I named a few things that Hoeven has done for your state! I agree with Purple OMS Governor Hoeven devotes his LIFE to the great state of North Dakota! He has a family too but thinks of all of you first, because he is that devoted to ND. "

To A Jealous Minnesotan wrote on Sep 25, 2007 4:49 PM:

" We are standing by our MAIN MEN, why do you think Byron Dorgan, Earl Pomeroy and Kent Conrad are still in office and have been there so long. They are worth sticking behind so therefore continue to remain there. That is what happens when you do something for the GOOD of ND. If your so Jealous then move here, ooh wait then you must be prepared for the increase of drugs, teenage drinking, taxes, etc that he has so called "helped" ND with. "

Purple OMS wrote on Sep 25, 2007 4:43 PM:

" to "gg" : You are a joke!! The people have overwhelmingly spoken and they will again next November. There is no one on this planet more qualified then John Hoeven, that is a fact! Why don't you run against him and then you can have the huge responsibily that he has, while getting criticized from nimrods all day. "

To Thankful Dakotan wrote on Sep 25, 2007 4:34 PM:

" Please speak for yourself and not the rest of ND, Thank you!! Never voted for him and never will nor am I behind him. "

to Purple OMS wrote on Sep 25, 2007 4:28 PM:

" He's devoted his LIFE? I think he's still alive - better double check though. And how is the number one teen drinking state with a 15% increase in violent crime, the highest gasoline prices in the continental US (even with a refinery), low paying jobs, young people leaving, how is this good government? How has he helped us? Please tell my - my LIFE is just DYING to know! "

DDK wrote on Sep 25, 2007 4:22 PM:

" For all you Hoven lovers: Identify one thing Hoven has been resposible for in improving North Dakota, anything, please name one thing. If you can name one thing that he is responsible for that have improved this State since he became Govenor, then I will vote for him. Since 2000 my Real Estate Taxes have doubled, my childrens college tuition has double, the population of the state has been stagnat. One thing, please one thing. "

A Jealous Minnesotan wrote on Sep 25, 2007 4:17 PM:

" To "how has Hoeven done a good job, Time to move on, and Carol" What are you thinking?!?! Do you have your heads so far up your butt you can't think straight? I live in Minnesota but have family in North Dakota and I am so JEALOUS of the governor you have. Hmmm let's see what has Hoeven done shall we...well for starters the economy in your state has grown by $1 billion in the last 3 years, the unemployment rate is one of the lowest in the country, personal income has grown 3 times faster than the national average, you are one of only nine states with a growing economy...but yea I can see where you are coming from with wanting someone new to muck things up for you, don't want to much of a good thing lasting too long....Pay attention to the facts friends not just the party lines!! We are the UNITED States of America, grow up! Oh and if you soooo badly want a limit on terms for a governor you better put one on senators and representatives too! Those old men have been in there far to long and those are the ones if anyone hurting your state! Don't change a good thing ND...stand by your main man! "

Independent wrote on Sep 25, 2007 4:16 PM:

" Hoeven should not do this. My taxes (especially property taxes) have gone up dramatically while Hoeven has been our governor. It's time to get a governor with some fiscal responsibility. Hoeven has bonding a lot of money in ND and still my taxes go up. It's not only tax and spend Hoeven; it's borrow and spend Hoeven. "

gg wrote on Sep 25, 2007 4:09 PM:

" Term limits for all elected positions I say! Hoeven has had the good fortune of being elected during the oil boom. then he takes credit for the surplus created by that boom and the lottery? No this state can do much better than him. It's time for him to ride off and turn state government over to someone qualified. "

He's got my vote wrote on Sep 25, 2007 3:49 PM:

" I hope he gets reelected and we get those democrats out of office. Go Hoeven Lovin it in ND "

Hahahahahaha wrote on Sep 25, 2007 3:45 PM:

" Yea, life is so horrible here under the Hoevens. Ha ... hahaha ..... hahahahaha. hoooo hhhooo hahahaha. Please, tell us more. Oh oh oh my. HAHAHAHAHa ... Life is horrible. hahahahahaha ... it's all your fault governor we have jobs... hooo haa haa. Kids drinking has nothing to with ... heee heee.... mom and dad's boozing. It's Mikey's fault. Haah aa haaa. You guys are.... whoo... too funny. Stop. "

Purple OMS wrote on Sep 25, 2007 3:43 PM:

" You guys all need to wake up and realize he is the highest rated Governor throughout all 50 states!! He has done nothing but wonders for the state, and how can some of you complain about violence or drug use when North Dakota is still one of the most savest places to live! If all you people can do is complain and blow hot air, then I say you think of some solutions and run for Governor youselves! You all should be so lucky that he devotes his LIFE to serve your state... "

Hef wrote on Sep 25, 2007 3:36 PM:

" I think North Dakota has the best looking First Lady in the country. Vote for her. John's on his own. "

la wrote on Sep 25, 2007 3:21 PM:

" What state are you folks living in. Thank god the vast majority of you folks don't vote but just complain. Interesting again! "

Tim from Bismarck wrote on Sep 25, 2007 3:05 PM:

" Let's see------ Mikey stomps the state against teen drinking and we have the highest teen alcahol consumption we've ever had. The Gov had a big push for teacher pay increases and we still are next to last in the country for teacher pay. In the last several terms, name one thing this Gov. has done to make this state better for the average citizen????????? We do have to give them credit, they definitely do not miss a photo4ry opportunity!!!! "

Just Wondering wrote on Sep 25, 2007 2:51 PM:

" If Hoeven wins again, I wonder what high paying appointment Don Larson will get as his poltical reward for being campaign manger. An Curious to see if Hoeven can screw up another important ND State agency like he did with DHS and Carol Olson. "

How has Hoeven done a good job? wrote on Sep 25, 2007 2:43 PM:

" People are leaving in droves, taxes are up, drug use is up, violent crime is up, small counties and towns are disappearing off the face of the map, good jobs don't exist except in the oil fields, his former campagn manager runs DHS which is a joke as she is totally unqualified, Government officials are resigning, the AG does nothing, corruption in State and Local Government is at an all time high. This is a good job? This is a record for reelection? A chimpanzee would be a better governor than what we have. "

Rugby Resident wrote on Sep 25, 2007 2:34 PM:

" great news for North Dakota...a Democrat in Republican clothing... crime sky rocketing, drug and alcohol abuse out of control...rural communities disappearing...even his own party doesn't trust his spending policies...let's see how long it takes him to ruin the states economy. "

I Like Mikey wrote on Sep 25, 2007 2:31 PM:

" I like the Hoevens! But, 1 comment....if Mikey is so against teen drinking, perhaps she should campaign for a teen center, since alot of letters & blogs have stated the need for teen rec. Hmmm..??? But PLEASE do not vote for the 'Cover Your Dead Deer' guy, or Dorgan again!!! "

Deb wrote on Sep 25, 2007 2:21 PM:

" Heidi & Hillary - '08!!! "

Grumpy Old Republican wrote on Sep 25, 2007 2:20 PM:

" GOOD! He's done an outstanding job for two terms, so let's give him 4 more years. Good luck, Governor. (Not like you'll really NEED it...look at what the dimocruds have thrown at you thus far...LOL!!) "

Agree wrote on Sep 25, 2007 2:17 PM:

" I think he should run for Sherrif down in Richland county.... hehehe He didn't get my vote last time nor will he now. "

Thankful Dakotan wrote on Sep 25, 2007 2:17 PM:

" Thanks Gov! ND is behind you all the way!!! "

Paulie wrote on Sep 25, 2007 2:15 PM:

" It's time for Hoeven to retire...and take Kent, Earl, and Byron with you! "

GoBush wrote on Sep 25, 2007 2:11 PM:

" I just wish we could get Dubya for 3 terms also. Hoeven has my vote for the third time. It sucks when you have to let the good ones go! "

displaced dakotan wrote on Sep 25, 2007 2:03 PM:

" Good Luck Hoeven! "

Carol wrote on Sep 25, 2007 1:58 PM:

" Response to "Time to Move On" - I agree. "

MamaMia wrote on Sep 25, 2007 1:41 PM:

" Wow. The excitement never ends. "

Time to move on. wrote on Sep 25, 2007 1:34 PM:

" There should be a law like there is for President that limits the number of terms that the governor can be in office. It is time for someone new to eb in office. "

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