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Juveniles cited for urinating in teacher's drink

 
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Sep 20, 2007 - 15:02:55 CDT
By Jenny Michael
Bismarck Tribune
Police have issued juvenile citations to three teenagers allegedly involved in urinating in a teacher's cup.

Bismarck Police Sgt. Dwight Offerman said a 14-year-old boy at Simle Middle School has been cited with disorderly conduct for allegedly going into a classroom during the lunch hour Tuesday while the teacher was out of the room and urinating in the teacher's cup.

Offerman said the teacher drank from the cup and became sick.

Two 14-year-old girls were cited with conspiracy to commit disorderly conduct for allegedly encouraging the boy to urinate in the cup, Offerman said.
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t-ra wrote on Dec 14, 2007 8:31 PM:

" finally you people get over this. thank God. "

Ray Ray& T-Ra! wrote on Oct 17, 2007 1:35 PM:

" *ooooooooooooooooooooooohhhh!* "

To Shawna W. (again!) wrote on Oct 11, 2007 9:44 AM:

" I thought I'd come back after a week off & see if you had the courage to face my questions. Surprise, surprise--NO. So, if your husband is a sheriff (ahem, a GOOD SHERIFF) does he know you are spewing all this stuff on these blogs and putting doubt into the public's mind about the mentality of law enforcement, the mentality of yourself, and the mentality of your 6th gr. daughter?? Hmmm, going to answer? I think not! "

MamaMia wrote on Oct 10, 2007 12:20 PM:

" Remember Deb," EVERYTHING changes. NOTHING stays the same!" "

Online editor wrote on Oct 10, 2007 12:18 PM:

" Because they are juveniles, their names and any outcome from the juvenile courts are confidential. We do not know what their punishment was or if they are in school "

Just me wrote on Oct 10, 2007 9:42 AM:

" Sooooo....what ever happened to these 3 kids? Are they back in school? "

Deb wrote on Oct 9, 2007 3:40 PM:

" So, Captn Crunch can take the Lord's name in vain, but I can't post a quote from a movie? I see how it is... "

Captain Crunch wrote on Oct 8, 2007 9:49 PM:

" Oh for God"s sake, Deb give it a rest. "

Punker wrote on Oct 6, 2007 10:31 PM:

" "It...it knocked my pants off" "

2nd Simle Mom wrote on Oct 6, 2007 3:58 PM:

" I agree with 'Simle Mom'---GET RID OF Deb, Punker, MamaMia, DaNephew, Jr., and whatever other aliases this sad individual feels she needs to lable herself with. All she is doing is making a laughingstock out of important topics. GO AWAY. "

Simle Mom wrote on Oct 6, 2007 10:41 AM:

" It would be a good idea if the Trib made a rule of only posting pertinent posts... Can I add that to your suggestion box?! Then people wouldn't have to wade thru all the garbage that spews out of SOME mouths/keyboards. "

Lots wrote on Oct 6, 2007 8:32 AM:

" Seems to be a lot of people that have a lot of time on their hands to spew senseless comments. I skip them and read the other ones that actually pertain to the issue at hand. Get a job people! "

Deb wrote on Oct 5, 2007 9:17 PM:

" I have to say - it was nice to have someone more hated than I was - for a while. Thanks for takin the shots a bit MamaMia. BUT - it's too hard to watch your mom torn apart in front of you. EVERYONE: BACK TO HATING DEB!!! AND..........GO! "

Shopgirl wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:58 PM:

" To Online Editor - what's up with letting all the movie quotes in here? It does not further the discussion of the issue at hand. If you are hard up for a moderator, I'd be happy to help. I'm all for people posting their opinions - but not for quoting crap that adds no value. "

5th Vote wrote on Oct 5, 2007 4:06 PM:

" MamaMia, when you leave take your daughter Deb with ya!!! "

MamaMia wrote on Oct 5, 2007 2:43 PM:

" Hey Everybody, beer's on the house! Whata they gonna do, Smitty? Close us down? "

OUTRAGE US wrote on Oct 5, 2007 2:41 PM:

" When I first read this headline I about died. Laughing about this is not something I think is appropriate, things like this need to be taken seriously. "Funny" or "just a prank" is no excuse for behavior like this regardless of any situation ur in. Everybody needs to support this teacher and give him the backing he deserves. Urine in his coffee is disgusting and these students should be expelled. From this teacher's mouth may come a wrath which nobody is anticipating! "

Deb wrote on Oct 5, 2007 2:25 PM:

" Jackie Friedman: I love that one!! Here's the rest of that plot line: "Hey Newbomb, man - you better get in the car - they towed your brother's El Camino, man" "WHAT? WHAT? NOO! I'M A DEAD MAN!" And here's another one because I'm thinking about it: Clark: "Hey Bimbeau- don't you think I'd look good in a moustache?" Bimbeau: "You'd be perfect. You'd be a perfect horse's *bum*." Oh, now I'm gigglin. I love afternoon diversions to Halloween night, 1969 "

DaNephew wrote on Oct 5, 2007 2:02 PM:

" MamaMia's right. It WILL stop. "As of midnight tonight, that social scurge, Tubby's Drive In, will be demolished, making way for these beautiful condominiums!!" Brought to you by the Beverly Hills AH Association.... "

4th Vote wrote on Oct 5, 2007 1:27 PM:

" Count me in, count me in....makes 4 of us "

MamaMia wrote on Oct 5, 2007 1:18 PM:

" Sorry guys, I started all this nonsense, I'll have to stop it when the time is right. And it will stop. Patience, patience. "

Later Mama wrote on Oct 5, 2007 12:59 PM:

" Can I 3rd the notion that mamamia leaves? I was waiting for this kinda vote. I am in!!! "

Jacqueline Friedmann wrote on Oct 5, 2007 12:03 PM:

" You are going to get two for the price of one here: That's Newbaum's El Camino, right? And that's a fire hydrant, right? AND Well, step on it, step on it. Oh my god it's dog "doo doo"! JUANITA! (A Ba Ba Ba, Ba Baberann. . .) "

Buh BYE wrote on Oct 5, 2007 11:24 AM:

" MamaMia: I 2nd the idea that you leave. And please, take your idiotic comments with you = ) (don't let the door hit you in the......well--you get the picture!) "

bigpoppakdog wrote on Oct 5, 2007 11:00 AM:

" to "to simle mom" this incident shows what teachers have to deal with..if a junior high child does this, imagine what he/she is like during much of the time they are at school....this case involves ingesting bodily fluids......i've heard this teacher got really sick.....this could easily have been cited as a more serious charge had the teacher caught hepatitis or some other illness....this is a serious case because it was an attack on a teacher...the shoe fits both feet...if teachers are headline news for things they do to children then it should be noted when they are attacked also.....but unfortunatley majority of those incidents are never written about. "

MamaMia wrote on Oct 5, 2007 10:02 AM:

" Mary K: What exactly is your problem? I think they have meds for what ails you. In the meantime, why don't you get your lipstick and eyeshadow cases in order, hop into that nice little pink Dodge Dart of yours and drive far, far away. P.S. What the heck does "noy" mean? Couldn't find it in my Funk and Wagnalls. "

DaNephew wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:12 AM:

" Mary K, don't look for MamaMia to leave for the west coast any time soon. She still has hundreds of thousands of people that need to be converted to liberalism here in good ol' NoDak. Now.....back to the show. "HERE! Have some shake with that burger!!!" "

Mary K wrote on Oct 5, 2007 5:41 AM:

" MammaMia: There's room for you on the West Coast. Why noy go? "

To Shawna wrote on Oct 4, 2007 4:12 PM:

" Can tell you were just talking alot of jibberish, on here spewing none-sense and when you are backed into a corner can't answer the questions at hand? Figures! "

MamaMia wrote on Oct 4, 2007 2:58 PM:

" Left Coastie: Do you like the movie Hollywood Knights? We need some new blood in here. P.S. How's the weather? I'm jealous! "

Left Coastie wrote on Oct 4, 2007 1:53 PM:

" I like this article and the many many comments attached. But honestly, hehe.. you should really take a look at all of these comments and notice that every single one of them would "point the finger" or associate this incident to something very very horrible. My observation is this. That this article has caused a lot of people to become decomposed into childish demenor. Almost like you are all reliving your childhoods. Yeas and Naes alike, the only differences that I am seeing here between these 14 year old kids and the commentators of this article, is that you might...or might not have a larger vocabulary now. Be good to each other, dog done it! Live your lives with pride and integrity, and it WILL rub off on your children. Take care all.... Left Coastie checkin out!! "

To Simile Mom wrote on Oct 4, 2007 1:02 PM:

" It's amazing isn't it that this urinating incident, a misdemeanor crime got top billing, but a crime invoving a felony is hidden away in the news somewhere. "

To a Student wrote on Oct 4, 2007 12:17 PM:

" So be sure next time that you are at a party or a gathering that if someone pulls a prank on you that you don't get so upset about it. It's all fun and games when you are not the one on the receiving end. "

Simle Mom wrote on Oct 4, 2007 12:02 PM:

" Thanks!! "

Online Editor wrote on Oct 4, 2007 11:59 AM:

" To Simle Mom: There is a story in the paper and online today about it. Here is the link to the story:http://www.bismarcktribune.com/articles/2007/10/04/news/local/140373.txt "

Simle Mom wrote on Oct 4, 2007 11:55 AM:

" Is the Tribune doing a story on the bomb threat at Simle yesterday?? Apparently a 14-yr old girl was arrested yesterday at the school....why has nothing been posted in the paper (other than my comments) on this situation? "

DaNephew wrote on Oct 4, 2007 10:38 AM:

" I'm just gettin' some burger... "

Mary K wrote on Oct 4, 2007 10:35 AM:

" The soap in the fountain at Lewis and Clark park yesterday? Now that's funny! "

a student at simle wrote on Oct 4, 2007 10:29 AM:

" What is wrong with all of you people? Do any of you have a life? Ok so the they made a mistake, all of you have made a mistake before. Why dont all of you get over it. All three of these kids are good kids they just made a bad choice and yes beleive me they are being punished for it. Considering i have talked to all three of them since the incident. At some point you have to relize that they are kids. Next time one of you screws up maybe you will think twice about judging other people so quickly. "

Punker's Mom wrote on Oct 4, 2007 9:55 AM:

" What? Turk! Come on! I'm all hotanabothad! "

DaNephew wrote on Oct 4, 2007 7:05 AM:

" "And what are their names?"...."EYES...OFF!" "

Simle Mom wrote on Oct 3, 2007 4:58 PM:

" Online editor....why allow the comments that make absolutely NO sense whatsoever?? "

Punker wrote on Oct 3, 2007 4:41 PM:

" "What's in your pocket?" "A pack of cigarettes. They're for my mother." "For his mother, ya." "You little son of a..." "

Simle Mom wrote on Oct 3, 2007 3:54 PM:

" Now today, a bomb threat at Simle---what is going on with our schools?? The threat was written in the girls bathroom stall, and police were called in right away. Supposedly, tomorrow (Thursday) at 11:30am is when it is set. I know, 99.9% chance it IS just a hoax, but still.....what if it isn't?? I hope the school understands kids being gone tomorrow! "

Billa Bong wrote on Oct 3, 2007 3:21 PM:

" Don't get me wrong - I don't think ANYONE in the world deserves or earns any type of dangerous prank. I'm just saying that teachers need to watch the way they treat kids. Kids have a lot of raw energy and lack of judgement and if some of them get pushed or made to feel worthless or stupid, they WILL find a way to get back. Just don't set yourself up for that is all I'm saying. "

DaNephew wrote on Oct 3, 2007 1:05 PM:

" Punker, I hear ya. I think most of the script for HK has been published here already. I think there's one more I can come up with... "You know what I'd like to do to you, Newbomb? I'd like to kick the crap out of you!" NOW...on a serious note. I see the blog has turned to whether or not some teachers "deserve" such cruel and disgusting acts to be perpetrated upon them. WHAT?? Of course they don't!! I had a couple of English teachers in middle school who were HORRIBLE. They loved their little anklebiting dogs, and had them in place of kids because they obviously hated kids. Sure, they could get a lesson plan through OK, but they sucked out loud when it came to treating "pupils" as human beings. But even THEY weren't deserving of something this nasty. A 2AM "beepsqueal" in front of the house...sure. But nothing harmful or dangerous. NOBODY "earns" that. "

MamaMia wrote on Oct 3, 2007 12:32 PM:

" Punker and DaNephew: Whew, I'm running out of lines, but here goes. Oh, you piece of trash! "

Billa Bong wrote on Oct 3, 2007 12:18 PM:

" I don't think I was being contradictory. I'm just saying that while these types of things are wrong, wrong, wrong, some teachers set themselves up for them by treating students with disrespect. I'm not saying this particular teacher did that, just that in my experience, some teachers have. "

To billabong wrote on Oct 3, 2007 10:27 AM:

" So what exactly is your point in all of that? You accomplished nothing but are very contradictory. "

Billa Bong wrote on Oct 3, 2007 9:07 AM:

" I think this was an awful thing to do and agree that these kids must be punished enough to learn a strong lesson. But I do agree that some teachers set themselves up for pranks like this because of the way they treat their students. We've all had teachers we knew didn't care a bit about us, like the ones who stood up there and read right out of the book - like we couldn't do that ourselves. Or the ones who made fun of kids or criticized them in front of the class. That just creates hatred, and sometimes really mean pranks are the result. Teachers need to look at themselves too if these things are happening to them. It still doesn't make them right, don't get me wrong. "

Concerned educator wrote on Oct 3, 2007 8:17 AM:

" In regards to the person that made the statement of teachers bringing things on to themselves. What type of person are you to wish that upon someone who is working with children/students day-in and day-out? What type of example are you setting for your own children and other children alike? It is parents like you, which results in a lot of the incidents that we teachers see on a daily basis! I just find it funny how there are so many people on here that think it is funny or the teacher should have had resolved the issue on their own. However, in case you people didn't realize the police were brought in as these delinquents BROKE THE LAW!!! How ignorant are people today???? Well, if you read some of these blogs it becomes rather apparent....Like drinking or rubbing urine on your face, and she claims to have a sheriff as her husband. Wow, I am sure everyone is taking your advice by now. As teachers, we have enough problems to deal with like: staff shortages, crowded classrooms, students who come from homes that have no parenting skills, ayp, and so on and so forth. As a result of these things, any major distractions, such as this, will continue to be dealt with accordingly and these problem students will be removed from the classroom. Personally, I feel parents of these students should be held accountable as well, and perhaps their punishment should be coming with their child to school so they can monitor their child and perhaps see what it is like from a teacher's perspective! Just because we all went through the public school system doesn't mean that everyone can be a teacher!!! "

Probably wrote on Oct 3, 2007 7:49 AM:

" To the comment from "To Online Editor" at 8:46 on October 2nd, just reading your comment to the editor, I can see that your original one was probably libelous. By using initials, if you go to the BPSD website, you would be able to find out who you are talking about. Therefore, I would think could be thought to be libelous. Also, I don't think anyone, no matter what the teacher is like, deserves to be treated like these children treated this teacher. "

To online editor wrote on Oct 2, 2007 8:46 PM:

" Just wondering "WHERE" my blog is from ohhhh...... a while ago , giving the initials of certain teachers in the BPSD that may have really deserved this stupidy happening to them. I stated that there are a handful of teachers in this town that I just could not feel sorry for if this happened to them! Could it possibly be that these teachers MAY bring it on themselves? I can think of TOO many times where my kid's were not treated respectfully by their teachers. You know teachers, YOU ARE NOT GOD>>>>> stopping judging children by how much $$$$$ their parents give the school system. Get over is already ,it's 2007 !! "

DaNephew wrote on Oct 2, 2007 2:45 PM:

" Ladies, have you heard MY version of this song? "

To Shawna: wrote on Oct 2, 2007 1:53 PM:

" You haven't answered the questions posed to you about how much you interact with pee. And, if your husband is a sheriff, does he know you are spewing all this stuff on these blogs? My husband used to be in law enforcement, and he was so careful not to come in contact with body fluids of any kind at any time, he didn't take it lightly, and I don't think other law enforcements officers do, either. "

Punker wrote on Oct 2, 2007 12:02 PM:

" Back of the pie wagon, before Turk comes to the party. (MamaMia, Deb, et al) "

To Online Editor wrote on Oct 2, 2007 10:51 AM:

" I replied to what REX wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:06 PM (he wrote) “Did you know that urinating on jelly fish stings produces immediate relief” That is internet rumor like most so called urine therapies. I sent in web site addresses that told the truth about jellyfish stings and it did not get printed. If you put urine or urinating and the word jellyfish sting in a search engine you can find out how ridiculous this all has become. Urine can carry many diseases. In my Navy days, when the ship was returning from overseas, they would awake us one night and have “short arm inspection”. That is when the sailor is required to “milk it down” (his penis) and if a drop comes out the medic takes it on a slide for microscopic examination to check for germs like gonorrhea. If a sailor fails the inspection they ask what bars you were at and what bar girl you were with, and they close down the bar and test all the young ladies that work there. I doubt that much has changed over the years. "

disgusted wrote on Oct 2, 2007 9:07 AM:

" The students/student that did this need to be held responsible and need to be punished by the school, their parents and also the law. No, it probably will not make you physically ill when you drink urine, but this was not a choice matter. Think about it, it was a dirty and nasty thing to do and if you were on the revceiving end of the urine then I think everyone would want them to be held accountable. There is absolutely no excuse and I have a hard time believing that people are actually trying to make excuses for it. EEW "

Joan wrote on Oct 2, 2007 7:23 AM:

" What happened to this teacher IS disgusting and the kids won't be punished. There is a teenage girl running around and still driving around, too, after killing a father of 4 last March. "

Shawna W. wrote on Oct 2, 2007 6:56 AM:

" I never said my husband was a policeman--he is actually a sherriff--so ha. and i have no idea who ezar and dante are but whatever..................... "

Hello again Shawna W wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:11 PM:

" You claim your husband is a policeman. On Sep 29, 2007 7:07 PM you said "grown up you whiners. you cant get sick off of someone elses pee". Really Shawna, if you really think this and if your husband really is a policeman then he probably would not be very concerned about a student putting urine in a teachers drink? Why do I not believe you? This sounds more and more like an Ezra or Dante routine. "

REX wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:06 PM:

" Zit Fix: There are some strange cures out there. Did you know that urinating on jelly fish stings produces immediated relief? Who'd a thunk? (and how'd they find out?) "

Shawna W wrote on Oct 1, 2007 1:42 PM:

" haha! good one. just so happens my husband is in law enforcment, and we are very upstanding and in no need of a shrink thank u very much. maybe u are the one that needs some help? "

To: Shawna wrote on Oct 1, 2007 1:06 PM:

" And that is why kids still play with body waste. Because they have parents that like to play with potty waste. Your brain needs an enema. Obviously people need protection from you and your children. Whenever a child is kicked out of school the parents should be examined by a psychiatrist. "

To Shawna: wrote on Oct 1, 2007 1:03 PM:

" I just have to ask, do you think it was OK for the teacher to have to drink a kid's pee? If you rub it on your face (do you?), it's your choice and hopefully your own pee! Would you rub someone else's on your face, gargle with it, or drink it? Would you gargle with your own? Healthy urine may have anti bacterial components, however, not all urine is pure and healthy. Urine tests tell doctors a lot during exams, such as bacteria that shouldn't be there that is causing an illness. If your body is sick, the urine will have that bactreia in it. So, I am asking an honest question now, would you laugh if someone peed in your drink and you drank it? Would you keep drinking? Would you be mad because you didn't have a choice in the matter? "

Shawna wrote on Oct 1, 2007 11:31 AM:

" HERE IS SOME INFO: Applying urine on the skin helps to heal many skin related problems. acne, rashes, eczema, itch cause by allergy or insect bites, oily skin, athlete's foot, jellyfish stings... (taken from a website on urine therapy) so HA! It even has anti-bacterial property and can rid you of bad breathe if you drink it. so at least the teacher had good breathe!! "

here we go again.... wrote on Oct 1, 2007 10:34 AM:

" Why is it the responsibility of the school system to set aside a special room with special teachers to deal with kids like the ones who think it is funny to pee into someone's drink?? These kids are old enough to know wrong from right. I went to school to learn, to get an education and move out of that little town I grew up in. I got so sick and tired of the Losers disrupting the classroom on a daily basis. Imagine how the teachers felt. Have you ever had a job where you felt like your day was a total waste of time? No wonder quality teachers are getting to be hard to find. Throw these bratty kids out. All they want is attention anyway. Let the probation officers give them the attention they crave. Teachers aren't law enforcement. "

to ryanm424 wrote on Oct 1, 2007 9:47 AM:

" I can bet you your gf didn't drink the hairspray. "

Punker's Mom wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:34 AM:

" Wow, Punk, that one is so obscure even I don't know it. MamaMia, do you know that one? DaNephew?, Deb? Jacqueline Friedmann? Dudley Lawicker? "

Zit fix: wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:17 AM:

" Try a dab of honey on a zit. It works great, and kills the bacteria, not add to it. I can't believe parents would encourage or allow their children to dip into pee and put it on their faces! Honestly, aren't we suppose to be a bit more civilized in this century? How disgusting. "

ryanm424 wrote on Oct 1, 2007 12:15 AM:

" Perhaps the students were wronged and had no other choice but revenge. I was once forced to alter the composition of my roommate's girlfriend's hairspray. It was the gift that kept on giving. The obvious key is not getting caught. "

Punker wrote on Sep 30, 2007 7:08 PM:

" "Turk, I'm wearing my mother's perfume..." "

To: Shawna W wrote on Sep 30, 2007 3:00 PM:

" A drop of vinegar or salt water will also kill germs in zits. There are numerous over the counter medicines for zits. Why would you prefer body waste when vinegar is so cheap? Why would you teach your child such a thing? She will eventually grow up. Who would want to dance with someone who uses urine on his or her face? You should teach children to reach up not down. You should think positive not negative. Perhaps you have been reading to many witch doctor remedies. Try to catch up to the modern era. There was a time when dumping human waste (honey buckets) off the Castle walls was normal. People are much healthier now that we flush. Learn to flush. "

Shawna W. wrote on Sep 29, 2007 7:07 PM:

" well...has eveyone been triing my urine on the zits trick? trust me, I know! and my 6th grade daughter is doing it too along with telling her friends at miller and it really works. pee is a good thing. grown up you whiners. you cant get sick off of someone elses pee. and pregnagnt? ha what a jooke. "

Man Walking wrote on Sep 29, 2007 12:21 AM:

" To So typical: No, if they get off with little punishment the kids have not won. The life long necessity of changing behavior to what will work as an adult, will not have happened. Kids who continue to think that anti social behavior is cool are in for a big letdown. Like the kids that push drugs, then eventually grow up, and now it’s not forgiveness anymore. Young people leave North Dakota for a lot of reasons. Sometimes the reason is that everyone knows they have some anti social traits and no conscience. People will not hire them so they go where they can start over. Then they end up in big overcrowded prisons where “the man” is either sitting or walking the tiers 24-7. The inmates are trying to out maneuver “the man” so they can gamble, smoke drugs, or get sexual favors from some effeminate homosexual. This is why we have over 1.5 million young men in prison in this United States. They were given more rope and more rope and then when they turned 18 or 21 the rope got pulled tight. The inmates that run the gambling games are very good at taking anything of value from the new ones. Cheating at cards (or using dominos like cards) is easy. When one person has a good hand and raises it is the cue for his buddy to raise again. Then the new guy gets threatened that he must pay his debts in prison or else. This goes on year after year as the high school grads go in and the older inmates get out of the revolving door. If they can really scare the new guy they can rent him out sexually. The vast majority are afraid to snitch and write it all off as a learning experience. Some TV documentaries are trying to catch the prison scene but only see the gangs and violence. They are missing the big picture. North Dakota is lucky to have a very small prison, but prisons will always be prisons. "

So typical: wrote on Sep 28, 2007 10:51 PM:

" If the community, courts, and society let these kids off with a little warning, they have won. School administrators, go as far with this as the law allows, and stretch it to make a consequence they won't soon forget. Involve the parents, school and kids, and make it known this kind of sick joke is not tolerated. "

Point Man wrote on Sep 28, 2007 7:26 PM:

" Punker says " "Knights Rule" " Punker is funny. Everyone knows that in the old war game called chess the dominant pieces are the Castles and the Queen. The Knight is the symbol for Calvary, and the job of Calvary has always been to “Flank”. They can only flank the cannons when the Pawns are keeping the cannons pointed at them. This is a similar problem as the kid who urinated in the teacher’s drink. He was too immature to “read the board”. He did not know that the teacher was on his side in this life. I will try to be your point man and help on these little issues when I can. "

MamaMia wrote on Sep 28, 2007 3:00 PM:

" Okay, now that the air is fresh and clean and humor is allowed in the room without reprisal, I'm in Here goes: "What are we here for? We are looking for CUTE GUYS!" "Cute guys, yeah right, like that Newbaum Turk!" "

Punker wrote on Sep 28, 2007 2:13 PM:

" "Knights Rule" "

Deb wrote on Sep 28, 2007 2:06 PM:

" What do you get when you mix a donkey with a bermuda onion? Hey Mom of 2: we'll REALLY miss you here! You head out and fight that good fight to raise your kids with no sense of humor! All serious all the time mamasita!!! "

Man walking wrote on Sep 28, 2007 1:36 PM:

" To Mom of 2; come on back to the fray you are doing great. “The Man is Walking” requires only little explanation. Prison inmates are only locked in their cells when they sleep. The gamblers, homosexuals, and drug users will hire a point man (snitch) to watch the guard and tell them when he leaves his desk. If the guard starts quietly walking down the tier to try to catch anyone doing wrong, the snitch will alert the other convicts by shouting “man walking”. However when some youth is urinating in someone’s drink it is like “the ghost of Christmas future”. For that youth the “man is walking” (and waiting). "

Statistician wrote on Sep 28, 2007 12:57 PM:

" Citizen: The reason your school had knifings, guns, and people selling drugs was that you had no deterrent policies. A couple days self-study in a room is nothing but a two-day break for the regular teacher. You people think these things up because they are convenient for you and look good on paper to the casual observer. You start by saying you cannot brand them or cut off ears then jump to the other extreme of a two day partially supervised self study. That is called being an extremist. You only think in extremes no middle ground. On Sep 27, 2007 1:16 PM you wrote: “If this had happened to me, the principal would never have been brought into the picture. I would have paid the parents each a visit by calling them and telling them I was on my way over to see them”. Please change your story again because again are not making any sense. "

DaNephew wrote on Sep 28, 2007 11:50 AM:

" At least Newbomb is funny. He has more talent in his little pinky than you have in your whole....pinky! "

Mom of 2 wrote on Sep 28, 2007 11:31 AM:

" I can see the mentality I am even "trying" to deal with in this blog anymore. Funny how with certain people everything turns into some kind of a joke, even incidents that are not funny. Glad you think "everything" in life is funny, hopefully someone doesn't through a slap of reality at any of you and really teach you to grow up some. I obviously know MamaMia and Deb know each other but since MamaMia said she was outta here sounds like she is blogging under a different name now so that you can still feed off of each other. It's a crying shame how adults act, it's no darn wonder our children are the way they are. I could blog until I am blue in the face and noone is gonna listen or even remotely take anything seriously anyhow so until any of you decide to grow up I am done here. "

Mom of 2 wrote on Sep 28, 2007 10:46 AM:

" Sorry I guess instead of me watching movies to know who or what this bimbo is I am trying to raise my children so they don't grow up to a menace to society like other's are. My apologies I did think you were calling me the name. Haven't seen this show with the name Bimbo in there as you were referring to. "

Man Walking wrote on Sep 28, 2007 10:25 AM:

" What exactly is the hurry? Delinquents have their entire lives to learn to read and add numbers. All prisons have academic programs because so many of them refused to learn earlier. Why should delinquents be permitted to interfere with the education of the entire class? Why should teachers be required to spend excessive time on a few spoilers? You cannot put a gallon of liquid in a thimble. Most of them have socially or academically deficient parents anyway. Take out the trash and drug test the rest. Actually one good narcotics officer could visit a school on occasion and spot the druggies easily. Look at the eyes, pupils dilated or constricted, facial expressions, and body language. Listen to the laugh. Smell the air in their wake. This whole discussion is redundant. “Concerned Educator sounds good but also sounds a little like a buck-passer. The buck stops at the big house. Reality is the big yard. We all know that Punker is blogging from prison and having others write his stuff for him. "

Punker's Mom wrote on Sep 28, 2007 10:23 AM:

" Okay, I can't help it. I have to get in on this. "Who do I look like? No, who do I look like? I'm depressed." "You look like that ------- down at the car wash!" "

DaNephew wrote on Sep 28, 2007 9:42 AM:

" Deb, you made a mistake. It should have been "Bimbeau" to avoid confusion. Now, back to the show: "If any of those little (buggers) gets outta line, I'll personally kick the (crap) out of 'em!" LOL!!! "

Deb wrote on Sep 28, 2007 9:04 AM:

" Hey Punker, DaNephew & Mama Mia - Mom of 2 thinks that I called her a "bimbo" - think she needs to watch more movies or what?? "Try usin' the handle Clark" "

DaNephew wrote on Sep 28, 2007 8:47 AM:

" Punker, don't be afraid of that cow insemination story. That sort of thing only happens in Texas. Time to spike the punch....This one's for Tubby's! "

Punker's Mom wrote on Sep 28, 2007 8:25 AM:

" Okay son, what's been going on? I'f you're preggers I'm going to put you on full school suspension with Mother of 2 as your proctor! (As far as I know, that has nothing to do with proctology, but I'm not really, really sure. I know she'd enjoy punishing you, from what I have been reading here. Thinking maybe I should call social services as I'm worried about her "2".) Anyway, have you heard of that morning after pill? "

Punker wrote on Sep 28, 2007 8:12 AM:

" "Let it go down...let it go down"!!! "

Concerned educator wrote on Sep 28, 2007 8:11 AM:

" To whomever is making up these "great" new polices, like Citizen. You propose to use In School Suspension, that is all fine and dandy, but when a policies have been implemented like Zero Tolerance, then one needs to follow through on such consequences. All students are given a copy of these rules at the beginning of each year. In addition, the rules are to be reviewed by the students from the teacher that gave them. Then when a rule is broken a team decision is made as to how the consequence should be carried out. As a result, suspension is imposed as the most severe consequence In this case it was a very obvious decision made by the building's administration, and a good one at that. The students are 14 years-old, and they are able to discern between what is right/wrong. As for suspension, most buildings have a policy that if you are suspended you do not receive any credit for a ll the assignments you miss as a form of punishment. Consequently, meeting with the parents would be a great idea for the teacher, but then the buildings administrator needs to be there in accordance with school policies (which nearly all schools in this area have to do so). As teachers, we do not have the authority to make judgments regarding such consequences without our building administrators. The only way suspension could have not been imposed was if this child was on and IEP, however even then the student's team would then have to meet to see if the incident occurred as a result of the student's disability or whether he new his actions. Therefore, please research your facts before posting such ignorant comments that you don't really have a clue about, considering your comments. Rules are rules, and as a 14-year-old you have been in school long enough to know them! "

Punker Pregnant? wrote on Sep 27, 2007 9:05 PM:

" Yes punker you can get pregnant. I saw a guy on television who could make a cow pregnant with his fist. He had to drive it in past his elbow. It might hurt but if anyone can do it he can. Be careful where you hold your drink during the process or you might be part of the next chapter here. Headlines: “Punker drinks own pee while being artificially inseminated”. "

to citizen wrote on Sep 27, 2007 6:29 PM:

" Wonderland is a beautiful place. BPS doesn't know how to deal with suspended kids. They kick them out of school, and IF the parents give a hoot, they can pick up and drop off school assignments ONCE A WEEK. Suspended kids do not get ANY help from teachers, no tutoring/home visits, few directions on their assignments, and almost NO feedback on performance. I Knew a kid who was expelled indefinitely from Simle, and after 4 weeks I finally stepped in to get assignments, because the mom had the IQ of a bean bag. After 3 weeks the kid was so frustrated he gave up doing the assignments alltogether. From Oct 1-Dec 27 (his court date), he was never visited by any teacher or representative from the school. The solution? Told to hire a private tutor. Not to quote stereotypes or statistics, but it's a fact MOST of these kids are underpriviliged and unsupervised. We need better solutions, and in school suspension makes more sense than sending them to their rooms. I am no longer in contact with the family, but the boy and the girl I tried to help still live with their mentally challenged mother and have posted myspace pages where the 12 year old girl has a picture posted with a half smoked cig hanging out her mouth and multiple piercings, and the boy (14) and his friends are posted with piercings, tattoos, and open beer cans in thier hands. Where is the school and social services at in the picture now. Whether the schools want to be involved or not, these kids still need education. I don't think the policy is NO education if they get in trouble but BPS washes their hands of troublemakers. I do think the Trib was correct in publishing the story because it reminds teachers what sick things kids are capable of and can take proper precautions! "

Punker wrote on Sep 27, 2007 5:41 PM:

" "Are you sure I can't get pregnant"?!? "

Statistician wrote on Sep 27, 2007 5:34 PM:

" To Citizen: Okay the rooms were not small and you did have a large window. Glad you stated that more accurately. You put up to three delinquents in the same room and watched them through a large window? The longest they could be in the room was “two days at a time”. They could have a pass to the library. You went to the parents before mentioning to the principal that you had a problem? What kind of offence warranted this treatment? What if someone urinated in someone else’s drink? "

Citizen wrote on Sep 27, 2007 5:06 PM:

" Mom of 2 you need to read more carefully or I need to write more clearly (it is the latter). If the parents were uncooperative in my discussion of needed discipline. I would thank them for their time and leave, (nothing can be resolved with uncooperative parents) I would then turn the situation over to the principal and he/she would proceed through the guidelines established by the… Once it is in the hands of the Principal, the teacher losses all control over the situation. "

DaNephew wrote on Sep 27, 2007 4:56 PM:

" Hey...what's that clicking noise? "

Citizen wrote on Sep 27, 2007 4:50 PM:

" To Statistician. The rooms (two) were about 13x13 feet and were heated or air-conditioned and well ventilated. One of the walls was half glass and looked out onto a busy inner hallway used by the staff. Teachers were always stopping by to see how their homework assignments were progressing and to offer encouragement or to just talk to their pupil/pupils. The rooms were right beside the counselor’s offices who often stopped in and gave the pupil/pupils encouragement and near the Principal and Assistant Principals office as well. One set of restrooms was down the hall about 25 feet. Sometimes we could have as many as three pupils in a room but tried to keep it to one for concentrations sake. I said the pupils were given special assignments, I over spoke on that. No assignment was ever given as a form of punishment. These assignments were the same assignments all pupils were doing, at the time and the suspension pupils received no more or less credit for their work. The pupil would have a dictionary, thesaurus and compact encyclopedia. Using a pass system the pupils had access to the library. We could have used orange paint on the walls, would you have preferred that to the light blue we used. The system worked well but nothing is perfect. Of course they could have been suspended and sent to an empty home to get into all sorts of mischief. The longest the pupils were restricted to the In School Suspension policy was two days at a time. The ACLU is a fine organization but not always the solution. Less then 1 percent of our pupils ever received In School Suspension. Self-respect is the result of inner discipline; a sense of dignity grows with the ability to say no to oneself. "

Mom of 2 wrote on Sep 27, 2007 4:15 PM:

" To Citizen, I am not saying take the child out to the barn shed and whip him until he can't stand any longer but I would certainly discipline him in such a manner or to the extreme that would NEVER make him think about doing such an incident again. Also be sure that the message is sent to be sure other kids are not even thinking about doing the same thing......By the way, you say it would have been handled between you and the parents and if they were uncooperative you would have thanked them for their time, assuming you mean it would have been brushed off as if nothing had ever happened, basically showing the child that it was OK or no consequences for their actions......Let me think how do repeat offenders happen? Smart thinking but sorry you have nothing but trouble on your hands with that kind of a response. Sorry you make no sense. "

Mom of 2 wrote on Sep 27, 2007 4:09 PM:

" To Billa Bong, if you think I post comments to please anyone you can think again. I have my way of thinking and you or anyone else is never gonna change that, if you don't like what I have to say then don't read the comments that are posted under " mom of 2" just keep reading pal. I didn't start the name calling but after being called a BIMBO I can certainly stick my 2 cents in....What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I will continue to blog until I don't have fingers to type anymore...Ooh by the way just to please you!!!!! I was sticking up for not doing the name calling by calling children "stupid" maybe you didn't see that and only seen the catty remarks, but then again selective reading it must be. "

Jacqueline Friedmann wrote on Sep 27, 2007 3:41 PM:

" Mooning, yes, mooning, Mr. Katzenbaum. Mooning! "

Statistician wrote on Sep 27, 2007 3:05 PM:

" To: Citizen. What school was this that had empty classrooms for isolation of offenders? You claim to have had enough teachers to constantly watch one child in an empty room and escort that child to a restroom to keep him separate from other children. What genius thought up the blue paint on the walls. Surely you are making this up. You must read a lot of fiction. The ACLU would love to visit that school if it really did exist. Unless you worked at Virginia Tech College and remember the individual tutoring treatment of Cho who later killed numerous other students. He needed psychiatric help but was given individual tutoring instead. This kid is 14 years old. You really want to isolate a 14 year old. You are making me sound really logical. "

DaNephew wrote on Sep 27, 2007 2:44 PM:

" Hey, Newbomb...Where's your El Camino? "

Citizen wrote on Sep 27, 2007 2:27 PM:

" Online editor, I have modified my comment, will this work? Mother of 2. In my school the punishment would probably have been suspension for a couple of days, but not suspension at home where the pupils could watch television, etc. Our suspension was in school. We called it In School Suspension. Individually the pupils were placed in small windowless rooms, the walls were painted blue. They were provided with a desk and proper lighting. They were monitored and required to work on special homework assigned by all of their teachers. Sleeping was not allowed. If they needed help with their assignment, our tutoring program would come to their aid. Lunch was brought to them; they were not allowed to mingle with the rest of the student body. If they needed to use the restrooms, they did it during class time, not between classes where they could again mingle with their friends. It was not a pleasant day for them. Then, the other staff members and I would have watched these juveniles like hawks, until their graduation. Expulsion would have been another option. It is very harsh and requires action by the School Board and I don’t believe this situation warrants it. "

Statistician wrote on Sep 27, 2007 2:20 PM:

" No reason for any form of punishment. They are supposed to be learning to be adults and clearly they have failed. By federal decree schools and entertainment is designed to teach children how to be children. The courts have deemed it to be so. The next three or four years are critical. Growing up with small child-like minds will be punishment enough. The girls will probably become battered wives or at least have multiple divorces and claim victim status. The boy will end up in Leavenworth (not really Kansas) or Attica (not really New York) or some other wonderful place to finally grow up. San Quentin has the best climate and has a good view of Oakland, which has the highest crime rate in the United States. Staring out the cell window at Alcatraz Island is very good therapy. The fog and wind and foghorns blowing in the bay at night make it all special. But wait he is only 14 and the dominant brain here might have been one of the girls. Much too early to be laying any bets on just yet. Within a few years the dominant brain will surface and what is now 3 to 1 odds will become more clear. "

To Citizen wrote on Sep 27, 2007 1:56 PM:

" As a mother with students of several ages and in several different schools in this system, I think you are the first person with anything intelligent or helpful to say. Congratulations, you sound like a levelheaded and compassionate person. Obviously we need more like you in our town. "

Onine Editor wrote on Sep 27, 2007 1:42 PM:

" To Citizen: The 350-word-limit is in place to make comments more readable. Because of that no two-part comments are allowed. "

To Watching All This and Others From a Student wrote on Sep 27, 2007 1:23 PM:

" How can this be assault for causing bodily harm, when the teacher who is a HE by the way, has been in school everyday since, teaching, where HE belongs???? And oh has definitely not been HOSPITALIZED!!!!! "

Citizen wrote on Sep 27, 2007 1:16 PM:

" Ok Mother of 2, what do you want to do with these young boys? We could take them out to the playground and cut their ears off, or their fingers, or brand their foreheads with a hot iron in front of the student body. We could put them in jail for the next ten years. We could confine them to their homes and deprive them of their education. Don’t talk about “The mentality of these so-called adults (or even teachers) are showing is the …” I question your mentality and certainly your adulthood! What these boys did is serious, but not that serious. Something positive must come out of this episode for all involved. I even question why the Bismarck Tribune found this story newsworthy, shame on you Tribune. In the community I taught in, the school and the local paper had an unwritten agreement. The paper stayed out of disciplinary actions unless they were extremely serious (a knifing, selling drugs, bringing a gun to school, etc.) An incident exactly like this did happen in my school; I don’t believe the teacher got ill. If this had happened to me, the principal would never have been brought into the picture. I would have paid the parents each a visit by calling them and telling them I was on my way over to see them. The parents and I together, would have discussed the proper punishment. If the parents were uncooperative, I would have thanked them for their time and left, now the Principal would have been told of the affair. The situation would have proceeded through the guidelines established by the district and proper punishment would have happened. To be continued. "

Punker wrote on Sep 27, 2007 1:16 PM:

" "Beaver patrol, beaver patrol...calling all beavers"!! "

Billa Bong wrote on Sep 27, 2007 12:27 PM:

" To Mom of 2: I have notice that on this blog and others you come off as being very catty, snide and even snotty to other posters. You bring entire blogs down to name calling level. I wish you would take a more mature stance, as you often tell others to do, rather than name calling and making catty remarks. You are not showing your "Mom of 2" maturity, as your handle would try to make others believe. Please step it up a bit, or stop blogging. Thanks. "

Deb wrote on Sep 27, 2007 12:15 PM:

" Mom of 2: Oh, geez- hah! You got me! You really did! I've never felt so stupid, I mean, worthless, I mean, Oh - you know what I mean! Good work! You've changed my outlook on life. Congrats to you! Good day, ma'am! "OH DUDLEY, WOULD YOU JUST LEAVE? PLEASE, JUST LEAVE!!" "

Kevin wrote on Sep 27, 2007 11:44 AM:

" To Curious, I would hope the students are getting some potty training. "

Curious wrote on Sep 27, 2007 11:15 AM:

" Does anyone (including the on-line Editor) have any accurate information as to what may have happened since to the three kids for discipline/punishment by the school? "

Mom of 2 wrote on Sep 27, 2007 10:57 AM:

" Sorry Citizen, I have a hard time "moving on" when people are on here cracking jokes or making light of the subject. The only reason it's funny is because it didn't happen to them, if it would have then god forbid the world should come crashing down on that person. People who HAVE no sympathy but WANT all the sympathy. The mentality these so called adults (or even teachers) are showing is the exact mentality that will allow these children to get away with it or just simply get a slap on the hand and off they go, only to show other children that not much for punishment so might as well try something bigger and better. There should be no reason that people wonder why our youth are the way they are when you have parents (and teachers) acting as some of these individuals have in these blogs. I could only hope most of them are kidding but I find that very hard to believe. Funny, let's blow everything off to being funny. Sure, why not, last week Sally murdered her classmate, now that's funny. Give me a break!!! "

Citizen wrote on Sep 27, 2007 10:21 AM:

" OK folk’s, time to back away from this story. As a retired educator (high school) this minor story has gotten way to much attention. Let the Principal, and parents deal with this one. Young people do dumb things, this was one of them, although no one ever urinated in my soft drink, I never left the can/bottle around where it could happen. I always had an excellent relationship with my pupils, but they also new that if they pulled a silly stunt like urinating into my soft drink and I found out about it, they would be punished. Its time to move on, this story is history. You need to be focused on the larger picture, how are these pupils and all the others doing academically? Is everyone’s homework being turned in on time? How does everyone treat each other? What is the level of drug use in our schools? It is time for all of you parents to become actively involved in the education of your children. Parents working as a team with teachers have the best results. "

watching all this wrote on Sep 27, 2007 10:00 AM:

" I agree with the attorney who said the parents and school system should be sued. Maybe it's because I work in a law office but the boy should have been properly charged with assault which is defined as 'causing another bodily harm' which is precisely what he did. Who is going to recompense the teacher for her medical bills (she makes lousy wages teaching in ND and insurance doesn't cover everything) and her pain and suffering? She is entitled to that, plus, in my opinion, punitive damages, which were designed to, yes, punish, and deter such acts in the future. Lord knows this kid needs deterrence. This was an not a harmless prank or stupidity or a 'poor choice'. This was a straight-up antisocial act. Our prisons are stuffed with antisocial types and this should be a big wake-up call for the parents. The judge should order a psychiatric evaluation of this kid when he goes to court. When presented with this request, a more adjusted kid would have laughed with the girls, maybe verbally fantasized about it with them, but ultimately would not have acted on it. At the very least he shows a massive degree of poor impulse control and immaturity. I would get him to a shrink pronto. As for the school, if a 3 day suspension is the best way they can demonstrate to their employee their concern for her welfare and safety, then they should be sued too. Someone needs to pay and it shouldn't be the victim. "

Mom of 2 wrote on Sep 27, 2007 8:55 AM:

" Deb, just because this is your son doesn't mean you have to be so defensive. I guess it is true that children do turn out like their parents. You can continue to call any children stupid and see how they turn out (I guess we will see them in the paper more and more trying to seek attention) and what their self esteem will show you, I on the other hand would NEVER call my children or anyone elses children stupid for that matter. I am all about being completely honest with my children but calling them stupid only comes from one who is. There are certain things you just don't say to children, stupid, worthless, etc regardless of what you think or as being a parent they will resent you. Having less of an IQ just means a personally is mentally challenged, having that problem you can still perform in daily activities, heck you proved it to us now didn't you. "

Punish the kids: wrote on Sep 27, 2007 3:11 AM:

" If suspension is not the best answer, then I agree they should be punished in school. They should be kept apart from others, special desk in the corner, made to help the janitor clean the toilets, rake the leaves during lunch hour, and any other place where they would be of some use. If they treat their school and teachers with such disrespect, they certainly owe that school and those teachers some of their time and effort. A slap on the wrist or a week's detention is NOT enough. I sure hope the teacher is OK, and gets out of the hospital soon. I wonder how the kids feel about that. Any regrets? I still say we went backwards when we got rid of the wood sheds. "

Shawna W. wrote on Sep 26, 2007 11:09 PM:

" Yeah thats in china--who cares. how about real america?? My husband is in law enforcment & trust me if he was woried about pee he wouldnt be working the job he does. "

To all who claim “Pee” (or urine) is sterile wrote on Sep 26, 2007 10:12 PM:

" I would need to check legalities, but I would be glad to pay you 100 dollars to drink a cup of urine that I collect. I know someone with bladder cancer that might sell me some urine and I think I can find an old sailor who has recurring prostate infections from all the brothels he has visited years ago in places like Hong Kong. I promise not to mix in any urine from a drug addict with hepatitis knowingly. We would need to go to a lawyer and sign a few liability release forms. You do know that cancer of the cervix is caused by a virus that loves to hang out under the foreskin of sexually active males. No one knows if it is related to throat cancer. "

to: to girls wrote on Sep 26, 2007 9:36 PM:

" The problem with the system is that teachers and school administration cannot punish these students without expelling or a suspension. Why not let them come back to school and punish them with community service. Have them spend their free time cleaning the schools and helping at school events. The shame they will have will hopefully teach them a lesson they will not forget. "

To Shawna wrote on Sep 26, 2007 5:54 PM:

" http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-05/08/content_328801.htm China Daily says the SARS virus can be spread in many ways including sweat and urine. So add one more to the long list of VD's and Hepatitis type diseases that can be carried by urine. You must be one of those below body temp people Deb mentioned. You can drink all the urine you want. Do not condone others putting unsanitary and often diseased body fluids in someone else’s drink or you will party alone. "

Ollie wrote on Sep 26, 2007 5:33 PM:

" Hey can't we all just get along here? Some of you dorks are waaaaay too serious! Back to the flick. "I call him squeekums. Do you like him Mrs. Friedmann? "

Unreal wrote on Sep 26, 2007 5:04 PM:

" To Deb: Your comment about people with low IQs is a slam against our mentally challenged population, which is not right. They are people too and can be a productive part of society. In fact, most of them are much nicer people and caring than a lot of people can say that they are. "

to just a thought wrote on Sep 26, 2007 4:17 PM:

" "SHE" is in the hospital, you obviously know alot about this situation! "

Shawna wrote on Sep 26, 2007 4:12 PM:

" Oh for Pete's sake--have you codgers never done anything fun in your teen years?? I grew up in Bismarck & played many pranks along w/ my friends on the teachers--it's all a part of being kids. (had alot of fun at Hughes!!) Pee is sterile. Did you know you can even dab pee on pimples to make them disappear? Yup--that's right! If this teacher is so freaked by this prank, she should NOT go back to school. Obviously the kids are smarter than she is. "

Deb wrote on Sep 26, 2007 3:21 PM:

" Hey Mom of 2: these kids are not just kinda stupid for doing this - they are very stupid for doing this. I'd call them stupid to their face, becuase I'm not a teacher & I don't mind being very blunt with kids. And there's a difference between knowing a kid is stupid and telling them they are stupid. I would wager a guess that Mama Mia knows some of her students are stupid, but never would tell them to their face. And believe me - she's taught some very, very, stupid kids in her tenure. Like, below room temp IQ's stupid. So, really - GET A SENSE OF HUMOR!!! BIMBO - GIVE HER HER PUFFER!!! "

to girls wrote on Sep 26, 2007 2:23 PM:

" Unfortunately, stupidity is not a crime they can be charged with. Not reporting it might make them accessories after the fact, but did they actually see him do it? Just because they "told" him to do it doesn't make them an accessory. Wouldn't they have had to see or facilitate the crime in order to be an accessory? His responsibility was to say "no way man, that's just messed up...." walk away, and perhaps notify someone they were trying to get someone to do something so disgusting. The shame is in that a parent cannot effectively discipline a child today. Obviously most kids today do crap becuase it's not only encouraged, it's supported because the legal system has tied the hands of parents when it comes to discipline. You can't hit them. "Can't we all just play nice" doesn't work a lot of times. Time out? Ground em? If you ground em, they just crawl out the window. You kick em out of the house, they go into the system and guess what.....the system bills you. More and more we see kids hitting their parents when they are trying to discipline!!! Anyone know what to do to a kid that don't listen? You ask for help from law enforcement, they send em to PLC so they can get raped, and bill you for child support while it's happening. My brothers step-son was expelled from Simle. Guess what.....they have no plan to educate the kids once expelled. BPS effectively washes their hands of these kids. They get no tutoring or assistance with education. We were told to hire a private tutor. Even if they are screw-ups, kids are entitled to a free public education. So, what's the right punishment, what's the next step, what's the right answer? "

girls wrote on Sep 26, 2007 1:43 PM:

" I think they girls should be charged. A 14 year old boys would do just about anything to impress a girl. They are an accessory to the crime that was committed. "

to statistics wrote on Sep 26, 2007 12:06 PM:

" I really don't think the girls should be held responsible for anything. They must live with their own stupidity. Their request caused no harm. You must be the typical bozo who has to blame everyone but the perpetrator for the crime. If I told you to jump off a cliff would you do it? If you did, is it my fault? I say not....unless I was holding a gun to you or your family, it would be your own choice to jump or not. Men outnumber women in prison 15 to 1 because men are imbecilic fools who know right from wrong and still do wrong anyway. I also don't blame the parents. If a parent abuses a kid and the kid still turns out to be a pillar of society, who gets the credit? I should have been a "statistic" but I am not. I neither blame nor credit my parents for my success or failures. The boy made a very poor decision. I hope his punisment is just. "

Statistics do not lie wrote on Sep 26, 2007 10:38 AM:

" http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm There are about 1.5 MILLION men in United States prisons and jails. There are only about 100 thousand women in US prisons or jails. This will just be another example of discrimination against males. These girls will have no immediate punishment and no long term consequences. "

savysac wrote on Sep 26, 2007 10:31 AM:

" Wee wee in a drink is bad, M'kay? Don't wee wee in a drink, M'kay? "

to mamamia wrote on Sep 26, 2007 10:12 AM:

" Sounds like as soon as you are being attacked on an issue then you decide to run and hide. Can't face the music so disappear, good philosophy on life. Glad you are teaching our children. "

Mom of 2 wrote on Sep 26, 2007 10:09 AM:

" I know you are a teacher, that's why I made the statements in the last part of my blog to tip other bloggers about your so called "humor", you told me before in another blog you were a teacher. I made a statement that there are NEVER "stupid" children and you commented back saying you had been teaching for how ever many years it was and you had come across many stupid children in your years. I was terribly offended because children should never be referred to as "stupid". As proven in this story children/adolescents can do some very terrible things but even in this case and as angry as it has made me I still would never call this child Stupid. I have humor and fun in my life everyday as my philosophy on life if you're not having fun then you might as well be dead but there are some things that even a sick a twisted mind should not find funny. THIS IS NOT FUNNY!!!! God Forbid when a "prank" should happen to you and we will see just how darn funny these pranks can be. Jut so you know DaNephew I am not lutheran!!! "

Just an idea wrote on Sep 26, 2007 9:32 AM:

" Give them about 500 hours of scrubing the bathrooms at the Simle. See how much they like a little pee! "

MamaMia wrote on Sep 26, 2007 8:40 AM:

" This blog has attracted too many whacked out crazies! I'm outtie! Hollywood Knights fans, rock on! "

DaNephew wrote on Sep 26, 2007 8:39 AM:

" Why are people picking on MamaMia? She's a teacher, and a darn good one. And anyone who thinks she hasn't had her share of sick or potentially dangerous pranks played on her is dead wrong. The "Hollywood Knights" references here are called HUMOR, kids. HUMOR...funny stuff...a release of sorts. GET IT? She referred to this incident as "mean and vicious" in a post. She DOES understand the reality of this, but still has a sense of humor, unlike a lot of people here. Did some of you take your Lutheran upbringing too seriously? (BTW, I'm Lutheran too) Lighten up already. Oh...and REX...don't get into a battle of wits here. You're severely outgunned. "

to the girl who said she was one of them wrote on Sep 26, 2007 1:15 AM:

" Sounds like you have some pent up anger. Is this normal for you or are you angry because you got caught? "

To: To MamaMia wrote on Sep 26, 2007 12:33 AM:

" Humiliation is not the right word. Breach of trust is better. The teacher will experience breach of trust with the children involved and any child titillated by the thought. Ask any of this country's prison guards who have rescued inmates from further damage by breaking up fights or stopping a suicide or whatever. Whatever you might do for them will be forgotten in the next disturbance when they or a friend decide to throw something your direction or drop something off the tier your way. People in this country do not often want to spend money on new modern prisons. I have seen prisons with 2,000 and 5,000 inmates with multiple inmates per cell. I am aware of one creative situation one day where a tense prison cellblock was searched and no weapons found. Meanwhile a few inmates had taken a large garbage can to the third tier and were filling it with water. Many other inmates were watching. When the officer stepped out below they lifted it over the railing and dropped it missing him by a few feet. Remember every schoolyard contains a few who will be the next generation of criminals and prison inmates. Anyone who thinks there are no North Dakota raised young men in larger prisons in other states right now is wrong. Anyone who thinks this young man has not taken his first step in that direction is wrong. His friends should be crying for him right now because each of life's choices means something further down the road. Decisions like this will restrict him to a narrower and more permissive group of friends. What will happen when his good friends offer drugs to him? Will he make better decisions under the influence of drugs? Think what you would want for this child or some other child when you design the next prison. Get rid of the tiers and go modern. Spend some money on programs for at risk kids. "

just a thought wrote on Sep 25, 2007 11:22 PM:

" i wonder if any of you know that this teacher has been very, very sick because of this prank. She has been in the hospital for days and supposedly has a very serious and potentially deathly illness. just for further thought... "

Online Editor wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:22 PM:

" To a reader: The top commented story list is not controlled by the Tribune, it is controlled by the readers. The list is automatically generated based on the number of comments in the last seven days. "

a reader wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:11 PM:

" Actually, I think this is getting really old. I think it's time for the Bismarck Tribune to remove this from their website and move on to something more important. I really believe it is time for this child and his family to move on and not have to be constantly reminded. They will have to deal with this for a long time and I don't think they need to continue to have their noses rubbed in it. Even an open sore is allowed to heal. Let's let this family heal!!! "

former bis/man resident wrote on Sep 25, 2007 7:57 PM:

" wow! MamaMia is a teacher and she's posting comments like this on a blog for the world to read this is too funny. Attention to the residents of the bis/man area for some one who is suppose to be setting an example to their students along with the parents would you want this woman teaching your kid? cause i wouldn't. "

To MamaMia wrote on Sep 25, 2007 7:50 PM:

" so since you are a teacher and all please take a minute and think about if you were the teacher in this situation and people were posting comments from a movie on the blog. I'm sure you'd be upset and filled with emotion as well and probably quit your position because of the humiliation. and i agree you can't take life serious however, to make fun of some one else's humiliation is just wrong and before you say a word yes i do get the irony of it but still think its wrong. personally i hope some one pee's in your coffee cup or beverage or puts something just as gross into it and may be then you'll realize how stupid you were for this and put yourself in the shoes of this teacher. shame on you and you're a teacher i'm glad i don't live in the area anymore and my child is not in your class "

REX wrote on Sep 25, 2007 6:11 PM:

" Mamma Mia You are so-o-o modest. Go lay down by your dish. You have no idea who I am. You just can't help telling us about yourself. One question though .... e6vare you trying to impress me? Or yourself. "

Get back is cool? wrote on Sep 25, 2007 6:00 PM:

" Long ago and several states away I worked a prison for awhile. Pretty sick place for anyone raised with any morals or hygiene. On a few occasions inmates managed to steal an officers lunch and pee on sandwiches and in the thermos. Nothing ever done about it because in prison inmates do not snitch on other inmates. A few months later some inmates made some home brew, which they hid in the mop room exhaust vent. It might have gone bad, because they had stomachaches along with intoxication and hangover. One officer must have guessed the hiding place because he later described where it was hidden and that it was in bleach jugs hanging from strings (he saw them in the garbage). He claimed he had peed in them and put them back. Naturally that was funny except the inmates did not think so? The officer was quitting anyway and just giving a humorous goodbye. That guy was way too lazy to ever look for brew…. But it is pretty boring on the night shift? I do not know for sure but no officer had his sandwiches bothered for a long time. All prisons should have cameras in them and stop any nonsense. Maybe schools need cameras in classrooms also. Maybe this kid needs to be taken to the sewer plant and accidentally pushed in just for fun ha ha ha ha. Or maybe this should be taken very seriously. "

MamaMia wrote on Sep 25, 2007 4:51 PM:

" Mom of 2 (Gee, so am I!) You obviously are seriously humor impaired, nor do you understand sarcasm or irony. If you go about life taking everything at face value and completely seriously, things get really old and boring. Lighten up a little and enjoy life. P.S. I have great colleagues in my school, I have the greatest students in the world (who care about me and I care about them) and you would be very surprised where I teach. "

Mom of 2 wrote on Sep 25, 2007 4:07 PM:

" All I can say is that the young boy and girls in this story should be darn thankful they are not my children because if I wouldn't have strung them up their father or a long line of family member's would be more than willing to have them face their consequences, which would have been done to me as a child if peer pressure would have clouded my better judgement (not in this kind of a disgusting act). I do believe the parents should be held accountable to an extent but children at this age are perfectly aware of what they are doing and should also be held liable. I am completely appauled at the people on here taking the subject lightly, it truly does show why some of these children perform such offensive acts with the adult mentality of some of you. It's a disgrace!!!! There should be no reason that a teacher should have to not have their drink or lock their rooms for fear this should happen, now the teacher sounds like they are being punished for a child's selfish acts. Give me a break!! I am truly offended that my child goes to the same school as these children. Just to enlighten some of you on MamaMia on a blog awhile back she was referring to children as "stupid" so that may clarify her thoughts on this matter and she is also a teacher. "

MamaMia wrote on Sep 25, 2007 3:04 PM:

" Poor REX, you're out of the loop on this one, so don't even try. Leave it to trained professionals! :) "

DaNephew wrote on Sep 25, 2007 2:23 PM:

" Zat's IMPOSSIBLE! He grabbed it viss hiss.... "

REX wrote on Sep 25, 2007 2:08 PM:

" MammaMia, I see you're wasting space over here too. "

MamaMia wrote on Sep 25, 2007 2:00 PM:

" Neubaum, please don't leave me. . .cause I'm a little scared. "

Think it's funny wrote on Sep 25, 2007 12:35 PM:

" I don't and I'm sure the student,or students,parents won't think that it is funny if the are kicked out of school the rest of the year for this gross prank that they did to the teacher.The students should know right from wrong by this age group. "

Bacteria common in urine wrote on Sep 25, 2007 11:49 AM:

" http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/URINE/URINE.html Bacteria are common in urine specimens because of the abundant normal microbial flora of the _____ or external urethral meatus and because of their ability to rapidly multiply in urine standing at room temperature. Therefore, microbial organisms found in all but the most scrupulously collected urines should be interpreted in view of clinical symptoms. "

mother of 2 wrote on Sep 25, 2007 11:48 AM:

" If that were my child that did that to a teacher oh wow crap would hit that fan big time and he better hope that he can run fast enough cause if his dad were to catch him oh we would not go there. The point is is it is called disapline the question is did these kids have disapline in there family setting. And i know that kids want to see just how far they can go but maybe if the teacher did get tested and came back with some sorta disease and i do hope that she doesn't but if she did maybe the kids would get their heads out of their butts and think twice the next time they want to pull some stupid prank like that again. "

leptospirosis wrote on Sep 25, 2007 11:34 AM:

" http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/leptospirosis_g.htm Another common urine disease in animals and people. "

DaNephew wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:37 AM:

" Dudley...Dudley...come here. I wanna show you something... "

Could be worse wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:32 AM:

" Unfortunately Hollywood movies and TV now encourage young people to do really obscene unhealthy and filthy pranks. They keep lowering the bar and it never seems to get too low. It could always be worse: http://www.nbcsandiego.com/health/11828832/detail.html Highly drug-resistant gonorrhea is spreading in San Diego county and other areas of Southern California, it was reported Friday. "

23 wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:14 AM:

" kknc, no, I do not have children, and if I did they would not have to be "watched" 24/7 because I would raise them to be smarter and more respectful than to urinate in someone's drink or encourage someone else to do so. DUH! And by the way, I am not the one who suggested suing the parents...try to address the correct person in your posts. "

Punker wrote on Sep 25, 2007 8:34 AM:

" "And this one I call my three ball trick..." "

to kknc wrote on Sep 25, 2007 6:27 AM:

" If this were a great kid he would have said "no way, that's absolutely disgusting, and you know, I don't think I want to be friends with someone who would ask me to do such a thing." So, I beg to differ that this is a great kid. A good kid who made a bad decision, maybe, and he should be punished severely. Putting someone in a position to drink someones human waste is not a "prank" and those of you who keep defending it as such should have your heads examined! "

Kevin wrote on Sep 25, 2007 6:20 AM:

" kknc, I don't need to watch my kids 24/7. They were taught to respect other people at an early age. "

kknc wrote on Sep 24, 2007 11:42 PM:

" to revolted: Do you have kids? Do you watch them 24/7? That's right you can't. If you think you can your wrong. These parents are great people and so is the boy. He gave in to peer pressure and made a bad decision. They say urine is sterile. Sue the parents?? come on ...for what a new coffee cup. Maybe, teacher's should start locking the door if the leave the classroom. "

C5323 wrote on Sep 24, 2007 10:09 PM:

" Prank or no prank I wouldn't laugh at a person who drank pee-coffee. Thats just not right. "

sn68 wrote on Sep 24, 2007 9:02 PM:

" I can 100% guarantee you no one ever took a bite of flaming poo. "

I remember wrote on Sep 24, 2007 4:55 PM:

" Did no one do the flaming bag of crap gag or was I the only one in ND that did. My point stop and think of all the gags you did as kid, How did your parents react? How did your parents raise you? My guess is pretty close to as mine did. They raised me to be respectful but I still did 'stupid' stuff in HS. Don't be so quick to blame the parents in this one as WE HAVE ALL DONE STUFF OUR PARENTS DIDN'T APPROVE OF. "

current student wrote on Sep 24, 2007 4:22 PM:

" yeah it is nasty and wrong but wat else can you expect? that we are just going to do wat everyone expects? dude maybe if you'd look at the kids view. some people need to start parenting and talk to their kids. there are people at my school who are doing things adults wouldnt do. "

current student wrote on Sep 24, 2007 4:11 PM:

" Man, i don't that the teacher is going to be coming back, everyone knows who it happened to. People are going to make fun of them. but wouldn't you be able to smell it? even if it was mixed with coffee. we (teenagers) aren't able to have fun. man when my parents went to school they had fun, now if we think about doing something fun of stupid we are in the principals office. I think some parents want other people to raise their kids and diciplin them. I was raised to listen to rules and respect others that deserved my respect. yeah ive done stupid stuff but my parents handled it. And whats with blaming the teacher if the kids doing bad in school? Its not the teachers fault if your kids a idiot blame your self or the kid, not the person who is working to prepare your child for the world. "

If only you knew... wrote on Sep 24, 2007 2:28 PM:

" I find it amazing that stuff like this hasn't been in the news before. My husband tells of making Exlax brownies for his teachers in the 80's. They did all sorts of things to their teachers. And you know what? They grew up to be good, responsible upstanding citizens of ND! Now, I'm not saying that any of those things are a good idea, and duh...don't get caught! I'm a teacher and I think all these pranks come with the profession. "

RKJ wrote on Sep 24, 2007 2:14 PM:

" Funny everyone here has an opinion with little knowledge of the parents,children and teacher involved. I guess the payment of your monthly internet bill gives you the right to pass judgement. How did you spend your days before blogs were invented. Any of you doing this on company time at work? Sweep your own porch before worrying about your neibors! "

Former Student wrote on Sep 24, 2007 2:08 PM:

" Tommy, you're probably right. I know the fellas in Mr. Neal's (Rest in peace, Herriman) shop class at Hughes in the early 80's put plenty of stuff in his coffee cup. Sawdust was a favorite additive, while crazy glue was popular underneath the cup. "

Tommy wrote on Sep 24, 2007 1:03 PM:

" I bet most of the teachers in bismarck would be amazed at the things they have drank and ate over the years.. If they knew about it anyways. I went to bismarck schools in the 70's and We used to do some horrible things... not so funny anymore. dont think we ever actually used human waste though. If you taught or worked at BHS in the late 70s I bet you went home with an upset stomach a time or two though. sort of the kids way of getting even to mean or strange teachers. ( we all had them) Maybe these teachers had it coming.. (they are all not saints you know) "

Anyone remember 14? wrote on Sep 24, 2007 12:42 PM:

" Statistically speaking 72% of all boys would do it to please one girl, let alone two. Give the kid a break. After all, it was sterile. Good clean fun. Not like it was premeditated or anything. "

Has kid been tested wrote on Sep 24, 2007 11:47 AM:

" Has anyone tested this kids urine for gonorrhea, hepatitis, or any number of diseases? No not likely, it’s usually up to the victim to get tested. People who fill this nations adult prisons normally have an arrest history as children. If anyone really does care it is time for intervention. A good start would be to have him take bottles of other peoples urine, put a few drops on a slide, and look at it under a microscope. Then he could help try to grow cultures from urine. Maybe perhaps he could take q-tip samples from public urinals to test for diseases. Then he/they should write a report on diseases in human urine and feces. A trip to a sewage treatment plant might be in order. His education might end up with a study of what prison inmates have done to other inmates for that and lesser offences. In most states the “convict code” demands inmates treat each other with respect. Oh, but this was just a teacher? They are not permitted to defend themselves. Part of the reason many of the better teachers in this country are leaving public schools to teach in private schools. At least they can get rid of social retards. None of this is likely so the teacher should sue the parents. "

gg wrote on Sep 24, 2007 10:53 AM:

" to in the know, I am college educated also, but where did I miss the part about being college educated makes you a better parent? I wont argue that these parents will probably punish him and kids do stupid things, this is one example, but being college educated has no bearing on what your kids do or if you do or dont punish them. "

revolted wrote on Sep 24, 2007 10:14 AM:

" I don't care how loving everyone claims the parents are and what "great morals" they claim to have instilled in their children....because if the kids were so great, they wouldn't have been stupid enough to pull a dumb stunt like this. "They raised them street smart"? And that's why they failed at a simple test of peer pressure? They have outstanding morals? And that's why they put their own URINE in a teacher's cup?? There's respect for authority for ya...gotta tell ya...these kids are so wonderful, I'm sure they're just misunderstood...haha...let's let them get away with it... "

Hank wrote on Sep 24, 2007 8:38 AM:

" For anyone who is even slightly amused at this, or tries to make excuses for it, let me say this - you are part of the problem, and a good example of why this kind of thing would happen. This constant downplaying of behavior is a perfect example of why things have gotten so out of hand with kids (and also adults) today. It's getting worse, all the time. This is far beyond a prank - I hardly think it's in the same category as, say, toilet-papering an office. I don't know that suing the parents solves anything, Although I think many parents are too concerned about giving their kids everything, and not holding them accountable for their actions, I don't believe the majority of them would condone this type of behavior. The kids should be thrown out of school, and not allowed back. "

Kevin wrote on Sep 24, 2007 8:20 AM:

" If his parents are all you say, do they have what it takes to kick his butt? "

Down by the river wrote on Sep 24, 2007 5:30 AM:

" Kids will be kids?? It was just a prank?? We used to pull pranks like this all the time?? I don't think so. I doubt an average kid would even think of something this gross. The kids that thought of and did this should be watched very closely as they are truely not headed in the right direction. If they can think of and do something like this at 14, then what are they going to do at 16 and 17? I am also irritated with the online editor for not pulling some of the idiot's remarks. "

In the know wrote on Sep 23, 2007 9:57 PM:

" For all of you who think you know what you are talking about, I am well acquainted with this young man and his family. His parents are loving, college educated and well employed. They have instilled values of respect, charity for others, hard work and a love of Jesus Christ in their children. You can be assured that he will be punished far beyond what the school or legal system will do. But we need to remember that everyone deserves forgiveness and a second chance. If I had to take a guess at where his brain was, I would say just slighty below the belt. "

former Nodak student wrote on Sep 23, 2007 9:05 PM:

" hay people, when are parents going to take control of their children again? parents do not have rights any more where their children are concerned and neither do the teachers. In my day if you got caught doing some thing wrong in school you hoped and prayed that your parents didn't find out because that was the end gate for you. By the time they got done with you , you couldn't sit for a week. "

former bis/man resident wrote on Sep 23, 2007 3:39 PM:

" as much as i love hollywood knights i really don't find this situation funny. if i was one of the students involved in this my parents would've beat the hell out of me with a belt. and as far as these students go suing the parents isn't sufficent, expelling them isn't going to make them think about what they've done they're going to think oooooo we're out of school. i feel a harsher punishment would be more approperiate such as sending them to a dention center for a day or a weekend and let them think about their behavior then and if these are actually "good kids" then that experience should scare the hell out of them but since parents really can't do that then there should be an alternitive punishment. and as a recent graduate with a medical degree urine is actually healthy for you. all it consists of is the protein, vitamines, and minerals that your body doesn't use if stranded on a deserted island with no drinking water available your own urine is actually your best bet for survival since it contains the excess things that your body didn't use granted this is sick and gross and you may get sick but its better than drinking water from an ocean and get some kind of parasite that can kill you. and no i don't suggest drinking some one else's urine because of the fact of all the diseases going around. "

Hollywood Wins wrote on Sep 22, 2007 11:16 PM:

" (To Hollywood Wins wrote on Sep 22, 2007 7:14 PM: " Please tell me how suing the parents teaches the child shame??????????? ") (Response) The answer to that question is obvious. (1) When you were a child, and you did something that effected your parents in a negative way, were you not ashamed? (2) There is a small percentage of parents that do not discipline their children unless it effects them personally. (3) When I was young I remember that the worst kids also had the worst parents. (4) I no longer care very much because the meanest thing you can do to children is to ignore them when they get predatory to other humans. They end up in prisons and not making much money when not inside a prison. Go pick out some really big city and go visit the prison. Watch and talk to the relatives going in to visit the inmates. The good polite ones are very few. I hope I have explained why they need parents sued and why they are born into this world with a handicap. "

Po-Po Rocklenberg wrote on Sep 22, 2007 9:05 PM:

" We all must remember the urine, skillfully purified, can become a drinkable liquid. Perhaps these youth were looking at helping their teacher out in his hydration needs? Please run it through a distalltion procedure next time and do proper research. It is also a good way to clean out wounds but don't use that as an excuse to pee on your friends all the time either. "

OHHH MY wrote on Sep 22, 2007 7:17 PM:

" Mr. Hollywood Wins must never eat in a public restaurant because most of the cooks in those place aren't usually the highest caliber people. "

To Hollywood Wins wrote on Sep 22, 2007 7:14 PM:

" Please tell me how suing the parents teaches the child shame??????????? "

DaNephew wrote on Sep 22, 2007 4:29 PM:

" Please don't hurt me. I think I'm a bleeder. "

Comment for an attorney wrote on Sep 22, 2007 4:08 PM:

" Oh, Good Grief.!!! This from a person whose profession it is to find a way to convince a jury of "reasonable doubt " by some of the most flimsey and outlandish means in order to let some adults who have committed murders, sexual assaults, and all other kinds of outlandish crimes walk free among us. And when you ask them how they can defend some of these adult criminals, they say "everybody is entitled to the best defense available". Course then there is always the civil litigation. Drumming up business? And if you did win a civil judgement you would take what? 40% or more of the judgement for yourself (the attorney). No wonder we want to encourage everybody to sue. "

Hollywood wins wrote on Sep 22, 2007 3:35 PM:

" Their friends will remember this for life. Trust is a bad thing to lose so easily. People who want to invite friends to dinner or out to a restaurant do not want anyone around them who is not trustworthy. They do not want any cooks handling food with such a reputation. This young man will learn his circle of friends is smaller and each group of new friends has lower standards. Yes Hollywood has had a very negative effect on another young life. But he can eventually move to New York or California and perhaps start over. Or he can be severely disciplined and will be remembered as a person that learned his lesson. The adults can again either save a young person or let him rot from apathy. If he goes back to whatever school with a stupid grin he is lost. If he goes back to school looking like he has learned a serious lesson there is hope. Yes his parents should be sued so he learns shame. Then if no one does anything else he will have learned something. If he knew his choices I think he would prefer severe discipline over life long lack of trust. "

a Citizen wrote on Sep 22, 2007 2:05 PM:

" I'm beginning to think that we don't need all these churches in Bismarck since they are clearly failing in their purpose. From the sounds of some of these blogs, there seems to be very little Christian forgiveness in this town. Without doubt these kids need to face the consequences for their act. But it remains that they are 14. Their act was bad. They are not necessarily bad kids and their parents are not necessaily bad parents. They made a mistake; a bad decision. I would hate to be raising kids today with all the outside influences we have in the modern world. My thoughts are that if this is the way we CONDEMN our teenagers when they make a bad mistake, no wonder so many of them are choosing suicide as a way out. We need to offer some hope of forgiveness and reconciliation instead of just condemnation. "

Ultimate Question wrote on Sep 22, 2007 12:07 PM:

" After reading this blog and all the excuses made for such a disgusting act, I ask you all..."Who would ever in there right mind go into teaching?" Perhaps all you who feel this was just a harmless prank should enter the profession or homeschool your own children. Oh, that's right...you might have to be able form a complete sentence. "

bismarckE wrote on Sep 22, 2007 11:55 AM:

" I hate to say this, but I moved up here because the quality of education in the schools and low crime rate. In the last few years with the promotion of getting people to come back up here it's begining to look like every place else. That's bad. With that you get these kind of people. Technically this isn't a "conspiracy" if they actually did it, then it's an Assault. Hopefully the kids are expelled since it fits the discription in the Bismarck Public Schools handbook. "

Excuses wrote on Sep 22, 2007 11:08 AM:

" This is not about what they have or where they live! This is about who they are and what they are capable of! I grew up poor, happy and content! Playing in the backard with a spoon and a coffee can was fun...we made our fun. We didn't have any high tech stuff...we had to learn to appreciate what we did have and my parents made no excuses. They gave us a warm bed, clean clothes, and food on the table. My father made sure that whenever we addressed my mother it had better be with respect. My point is...Never in my life would I ever think of doing something like this. Why? No question...it is just WRONG!!! Teaching is the most under paid profession and for all of you who think that this is just a simple "prank"...spend a day in a classroom and see if YOU show up the next day. We need to thank our local teachers for busting their butts trying to make a difference! 14 yrs old............QUIT MAKING EXCUSES!!!! "

This is directed to "seeing people for who they truly are" wrote on Sep 22, 2007 10:40 AM:

" Judgemental? How do you not? Even IF what you said is true...what happened to common sense? Half of the problem in our society is that parents throw themselves in front of every freight train trying to protect their children. I am a parent..I have done that. We want to protect them. I dont believe anyone is judging the parents...we are judging the situation. It is flat out wrong. These children need to be punished. How? I'm not sure. I don't have the answer but do not down play the seriousness of what happened. Peer pressure......gimme a break! If these girls were dumb enough to challenge this boy to do this.....why would'nt he look at them like they were crazy?? Quit making excuses for everyone involved and teach them right from wrong! This has nothing to do with where they live or what they have...if you do not know at 14 yrs old you what is morally right and wrong...we are doomed as a society. Respect. Simple as that. Whether it be toward a teacher, a law enforcement agent, parents.....Learn it! Live it! "

To: Seeing People For... wrote on Sep 22, 2007 10:23 AM:

" Nobody cares about where you live or what you where. What you did was wrong. Take responsibility for it. You should be ashamed of yourself and your friends. "

SE Forty wrote on Sep 22, 2007 9:55 AM:

" Welcome to Bismarck!!!! "

officer clark wrote on Sep 22, 2007 9:36 AM:

" One question for you Mama Mia - How does my mustache look? "

Kevin wrote on Sep 22, 2007 6:22 AM:

" Make the kid drink the teacher's urine. "

Jim St Jim wrote on Sep 22, 2007 1:39 AM:

" Oh my god I take that joke back Attempted conspiracy to drown a lawyer.......Sorry Joe Pesci..... "

Jim St Jim wrote on Sep 22, 2007 1:37 AM:

" To bismarck attorney; honestly attempted murder? Techniquely(sp) you could but geeeeez do you know how silly you sound? What do you call 50 lawyers at the bottom of garrison dam? A GOOD START!!!!!!! Lighten up Matlock.... "

A Parent wrote on Sep 21, 2007 8:50 PM:

" I think the thing that scares me the most about this incident, is that this 14 year old kid will still think this is funny in 10 years. "

Ollie wrote on Sep 21, 2007 8:46 PM:

" And now we have Sasha Du ah, Sasha Dabinski ,the, the ah, one armed violinist.X "

To Reggie: wrote on Sep 21, 2007 8:15 PM:

" You are right, urine carries disease. When my child had vaccinations, the nurses couldn't stress enough to wash her hands EVERY time she used the bathroom, because the body was carrying the vaccine out in her urine. What is vaccine? It's putting the disease in the body to build immunity. Better hope the door knob who did this wasn't just vaccinated for something. Honestly, the ignorance among our young, and according to this blog, among some older ones, too. Reckless behavior toward others. He should be punished severely. "

Slim wrote on Sep 21, 2007 8:03 PM:

" I made one comment on this subject and this one will be my last. Some, and notice I said some, of the posters should go to bed and stay there. The comments they are making could only come from a complete asinine nincompoop. I would be ashamed of myself if I couldn't come up with something to say that made sense. Why are you wasting your time? "

seeing people for who they truly are wrote on Sep 21, 2007 8:00 PM:

" well just to inform all of you judgemental psychos...you don't even know the story. and even if they told you you wouldn't believe them anyways would you?no you wouldn't. let me guess everything you think you know. The girls came up with the idea to see if the boy would do it. the boy felt pressured and thought if he didn't do it they would stop liking/hanging out with him right? so he did it. he got caught and so did the girls who thought they never would've. they never felt sorry or even thought about it twice once it was sitting on his desk right? WRONG. you know nothing ... absolutely nothing about the whole story. it sickens me to the fullest..how judgemental you all are. oh and let me guess it was the parents' faults right? because they let their kids do anything and everything they want to. wrong again . their parents are amazing...they raised them street smart..to fill in what they lacked as teenagers. they gave them morals and everything else that comes along with being a parent. and just to let you know.. they aren't rich. they don't live in huge fancy houses..two live in trailers probably like most of you. they don't have enough money to go to college or to even buy nice clothes half the time. they aren't spoiled little brats that have cell phones and high tech crap. one of the girls lives in a simple little trailer with a couple animals and a self supporting mother. who has an alcoholic father. she doesn't wear hollister or american eagle. she wears what she thinks looks good. it's not her way of being rebellious if that's what you're thinking. just because she grew up that way doesn't mean a thing. so quit being so judgemental , arogant, and being complete fools. i know all that i know because i'm one of the three bada** kids who has everything she could ever hope for in the world. right? "

Bismarck Attorney wrote on Sep 21, 2007 7:33 PM:

" Well, nothing seems to surprise me, people in this area laugh and joke about a life threatening incident. This teacher may have been exposed to HIV/aides, hepatitis and a whole host of bacteria related diseases. If you are to go out and spit on a Bismarck police officer you may be charged with a felony. What we have here is attempted murder. Since the student is 14 years old and a juvenile I would encourage this teacher to file suit against the parents. When having completed with the parents, the teacher should look to file suit against the Bismarck school system. No teacher should have to work in an unsafe, dangerous and life threatening work environment, because the Bismarck school board allows these children to remain. This is a prime example of how the Bismarck school system is being conducted, three day suspension, my goodness, is it not time for a change? It is a save bet that this student may have been in some form of past trouble. There are too many good students which arrive at Simle each day wanting to learn, why should these outstanding students be exposed to children of this type? Why are the bad students allowed to stay and not sent elsewhere, an example being a institution similar to South Central? As a minimum the Simle principal and vice principal and Bismarck superintendent of schools should be fired. When you go to vote, vote out all existing school board members. If we do not make a change now, what is next, guns? Have you looked at your taxes lately, we rank anywhere but 49th in the nation in reference to monies spent on education. Not enough money is going to those that actually teach and millions wasted. An example; asbestos removal at Hughes, building and property that someone else owns. "

To BHS grad, too: wrote on Sep 21, 2007 5:54 PM:

" You may find these comments disgusting, but what else could they be when you consider the topic? You really think this is too much for child's eyes? Have you seen what kids are exposed to these days? We wouldn't be having this discussion at all if the kid didn't have such disgusting ideas and then have the courage to carry them out. I am not too worried about offending the little things, actually, but rather they should see how this behavior is viewed from others, and that we aren't impressed. When kids find humor and entertainment in such gross acts, we can't sweep it under the rug. I hope the kid who did this is aware of the public outrage, and that his parents are making a scrapbook of these comments. "

reggie wrote on Sep 21, 2007 5:47 PM:

" Paw and that sip could have cost someone ther life. Do you understand that there is disease's bodily fluids hold them disease's It is not sanitary. Think about it . I do not think this is something to joke about. This is very sick "

To Parent: wrote on Sep 21, 2007 5:32 PM:

" Just for the record....You spell allowed--ALLOWED. You "children" should be very proud! Ohhh, and you want to give advice? Interesting. Yikes!!!!! "

DaNephew wrote on Sep 21, 2007 5:19 PM:

" Der ees a young man outside the vindow. I beleef he ees looking for someone called Dick! "

Dudley wrote on Sep 21, 2007 5:18 PM:

" Kids these days - whatever happened to an innocent pep rally with wholesome cheerleaders and a one-armed violinist or hangin out at Tubby's. In fact - 'I'm glad I came' from a different era! "

To Parent: wrote on Sep 21, 2007 5:02 PM:

" Kritisize?????? Maybe you should enroll in Simle and volunteer to stay in the classroom over lunch and study.... Just a thought! You certainly can use alittle extra help with your spelling skills. "

parent wrote on Sep 21, 2007 4:37 PM:

" the boy should not have been expeled from school. It was a harmless prank i agree with jimbo. i think that everyone should just chill out. and people dont need to kritisize his parents. i think the he should be aloud back in to simile "

Responsibility begins with you wrote on Sep 21, 2007 4:05 PM:

" The Great Chief in the Oval Office has nothing to do with your own personal choice of behavior and morals. So blaming Clinton, Bush, or the tooth fairy isn't going to solve this problem. We are not the Borg, taking behavior directives from a hive mind; we are individuals. People must learn manners and respect and that starts in the home with parents. "

Punker wrote on Sep 21, 2007 3:49 PM:

" "Zeez waz the young man who was supposed to get thee scholarship"!! "

to disgusted: wrote on Sep 21, 2007 3:32 PM:

" I totally agree with you! I was a single parent and when my child would't abide by the rules I found someone higher up for him to answer to. I would rather he learned that lessen at 14 than 30. Bismarck...and many other cities in this country are being overcome with idiots! "

to another grandma wrote on Sep 21, 2007 3:28 PM:

" What exactly is the humor in this story?? Explain. Enlighten us "old" folks on the respect issue!! And by the way...how would you like your glass served.....shaken...or stirred???? "

Bad manners wrote on Sep 21, 2007 3:25 PM:

" When I was 13-14 years old, I certainly knew right from wrong enough to know not to pee in someone else's drink. I knew that was wrong when I was 10! 13-year-olds used to marry, start families, and hold down jobs in the 1800's for goodness sakes! I think we really underestimate the maturity that age group is capable of. I'm not saying they must be adults at 13, but peeing in drinks is completely out of line. 13-year-olds today would get a sound thrashing from the 13-year-olds of 100 and 200 years ago. We've really allowed our standards of behavior to drop and we should be ashamed. As parents, we should be ashamed, and as a society we should be ashamed. Everyone needs to speak out against this behavior the moment they see it happening. Scold the invididual, don't keep quiet. "

BHS grad too wrote on Sep 21, 2007 3:16 PM:

" On-line editor...I agree with Front Row Seat, how is it that you can justify allowing the posts of some of these comments that are clearly deviant sexual remarks. Do you not get it? The discussion is as disgusting as the act. I don't disagree that all views should be expressed, but you must see that some of these comments are for adult sites and not the Tribune. I am disappointed, again, in the Trib. "

paw wrote on Sep 21, 2007 3:16 PM:

" To Reggie: But it was only a sip. "

Agree with Shocked: wrote on Sep 21, 2007 2:46 PM:

" When parents today are trying to raise kids, we are fighting a society that is getting lazy and soft. I have stated this in other blogs, my teens favorite line is "so and so can do whatever she wants whenever she wants and her parents don't care", which causes quite a ruccus in our house because our daughter can't do whatever she wants whenever she wants and someone DOES care! And the parents who "don't care" make fun of the parents who do try to hold their kids accountable and expect a certain level of responsiblity from them. Then we have kids who exhibit such a low level of thinking and decision making, and parts of society find excuses for them!!! Too lazy to deal with these types of issues? I am tired of fighting society when trying to raise my child to be responsible and respectful. Here's a chance for society to take a stand, and reinforce zero tolerance for this type of disrespect and disregard for other human beings. Can't wait to see what happens. All those who think this was funny and "just being a kid", are they willing to take the same punishments the kids will get, that is if they get anything at all before the government steps in to protect them. If you are going to stand up for the kids and what they did, be willing to stand beside them, as well, and walk the walk. "

MamaMia wrote on Sep 21, 2007 2:44 PM:

" Okay, I'm starting to feel sorry for the folks who aren't in on this little inside joke involving crypic comments. It's no fun to have your little noses pressed against the glass feeling left out, so here it is. These comments are being made on this blog because this incident (and a mean, vicious one at that) is a parallel to a similar incident in a 1980 comedy well known to a lot of people -- a real sleeper. We're just having a little fun. Take a happy pill, rent "Hollywood Knights" this evening and have some fun! (Now, fellow blogers, on with the party! Try using the handle, Clark! "

Disgusted wrote on Sep 21, 2007 2:23 PM:

" Clinton, Wow! These kids would have been six years old when he was last in office. Let them take responsibility for what they have done, don't blame others. Reading these posts, it is becoming quite obvious why things like this happen in our community - a large section of our population is made up of idiots! "

reggie wrote on Sep 21, 2007 1:50 PM:

" No wonder our kids act this way.... Look at the comments some of you are making. Kids have no respect anymore. This comes from the parenting. They wonder why? Our kids are disrespectful. I would diffently be punishing my child if they did something like that. Also seeking help there is something seriously wrong here. "

another grandma wrote on Sep 21, 2007 1:31 PM:

" Some of you are just not seeing the humor. Need to keep searching. "

Shocked! wrote on Sep 21, 2007 1:27 PM:

" I am shocked at most of the blogs I have read.....Who at 14 did not know right from wrong??? We all did. We might not have thought we would get caught but we certainly did know right from wrong...Even if we were not afraid of consequences...we still knew. I grew up in a family of 7, and we NEVER questioned are parents etc...and the biggest scare I had is if a teacher would call home and complain about my behavior. My family was not abusive by any means but times were different then. Respect authority.....simple as that. It is absolutely insane that some of you are making such light of this...but then again, walk down the street...go to the mall...just listening and seeing some people...this mentality is everywhere. It is really sad and sooo many parents are trying so hard but with so many others expecting everyone else to "raise, guide and teach" their children---what are we as a society to expect? I guess I shouldn't be so shocked....but I will continue to be sad that something like this could happen and so many people find it funny. "

DaNephew wrote on Sep 21, 2007 1:23 PM:

" No, mother. Laid. L-A-I-D. The past participle of the verb, to lay. "

Deb wrote on Sep 21, 2007 1:09 PM:

" I wanna tell you people sumthin'. This stuff is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY outta line. You squirrels better have some nuts in your mouth, or YOU'RE GOIN' DOWNTOWN!! "

To "It's life" and "Grandma": wrote on Sep 21, 2007 12:52 PM:

" Those kids knew what they were doing was wrong! Yes, they are young, but they certainly know right from wrong. A problem I see today is defending these kids and coming up with excuses for their totally inappropriate and idiotic behavior. Stop protecting them and start placing the responsibility with them. Sure, pranks are an age-old practice, but even in the old days kids suffered consequences when they went over the line, and consequences they didn't soon forget. Remember the woodsheds? We need to take a look at the whole picture here, and the kind of attitude young people have these days. This is so indicative of the lack of respect kids have and we aren't doing them any favors by neglecting to teach and enforce respect for others, or by finding excuses for their rude and thoughtless choices. And yes, parents are responsible. They couldn't stop their kid from doing this, obviously, BUT they can take measures to get the message to their kid that it won't happen again. "

to really wrote on Sep 21, 2007 12:42 PM:

" Head in the sand? "

SE Forty wrote on Sep 21, 2007 12:41 PM:

" To c crunch- CLINTON!!!!???? Some ones head is full of mush alright. All three of these kids should be kicked out of this school system. "

fp wrote on Sep 21, 2007 12:24 PM:

" Captain Crunch; are you serious? Baming Clinton? You sir a fool. "

MamaMia wrote on Sep 21, 2007 12:12 PM:

" To Parent: We're being assulted by eggs! Yes, eggs! "

revolted wrote on Sep 21, 2007 11:52 AM:

" I agree with Hollywood....this is what we get (as a society, entertainment industry, and as parents) for teaching men that the world is their urinal and so-called "pranks" like this are harmless and no one really gets hurt....I don't care how bad a teacher this is, no human being should be degraded by being forced to take into their bodies someone else's filth. I'm not going to "lighten up" or laugh, either, because it's simply NOT FUNNY. Those who think it is, well, you're welcome to drink your own pee but stay away from the rest of us. The two girls ought to be seriously ashamed of their stupidity (and punished). And Grandma, 14 is plenty old enough to know what they were doing. Toddlers who are barely toilet-trained understand where human waste belongs, and it's not in someone else's mouth. "

Captain Crunch wrote on Sep 21, 2007 11:15 AM:

" To Big R, Nice post man! But the kids aren't entirely to blame. Look at the example the Clinton administration left for these young skulls already full of mush, "

Parent wrote on Sep 21, 2007 11:15 AM:

" To MamaMia, Your right we should all just make jokes about this as if all the school children have no access to and do not read this blog. Your stupid humor, sharp tongue along with a inadequate but over arrogant brain has been present on this and other blogs. If you are as sophisticated has you have previously tryed to impress upon other readers, with your extensive but incondite vocabulary, why don't you try being constructive with your comments. "

Really? wrote on Sep 21, 2007 11:07 AM:

" "these things happen in the work place with adults too" ???? I don't know about that; I've worked in the same office for nearly 5 years and can honestly say that there's enough respect amongst everyone here that they wouldn't think of doing something like this to another co-worker. At least I know that I can safely leave my coffee cup on my desk when I walk away.... "

T wrote on Sep 21, 2007 10:38 AM:

" Time to require a log-in yet???????? "

A Grandma wrote on Sep 21, 2007 10:04 AM:

" I think what people are not realizing here is that these are children/young adults. They do not have the ability to reason in the same manner as adults and do things impulsively. Yes they should have considered the consequences, but in the heat of the moment many do not. It sounds like there was a fair amount of coersion happening also. Who has words for two young girls who encourage a young man to do something this disrespectful. In my day young ladies acted like young ladies. To those of you who lay it all on parenting, there are many kids from stable, loving homes, involved in church and athletics who make impulsive and unwise decisions for themselves. They will pay the consequences, probably long after the furor has died. "

DaNephew wrote on Sep 21, 2007 9:57 AM:

" Alright, you weinerschnitzels....get these overpriced sewing machines OUTTA HERE!! "

DaNephew wrote on Sep 21, 2007 9:56 AM:

" Yes, Officer Lawnmower! "

Mr. Green wrote on Sep 21, 2007 9:39 AM:

" How can one say "Yuck" until you've tried it. "

MamaMia wrote on Sep 21, 2007 9:15 AM:

" Okay people, let's really infuriate the humor-impaired people on this blog: Back to the movie: Lawrence, Lawrence of Arabia. He's an English guy who came to fight the Turkish. Meep meep. "

to Its Life wrote on Sep 21, 2007 8:00 AM:

" Maybe those kids SHOULD have thought of the consequences. That's one problem with a lot of kids now days is they don't think there are consequences for anything. There are too many parents out there who don't teach their kids any respect for anyone and don't teach them that they will have to answer for their actions. I don't care if they were upset with the teacher or didn't like the teacher - that's no excuse. This was an assault, plain & simple & should be handled as such. If there were more parents out there who would punish their children when they do something wrong, more children would think twice about doing things like this. "

jam wrote on Sep 21, 2007 8:00 AM:

" Hey I agree with " its life" This is no worse than pranks done years ago when I was in school. Kids will be kids. For that matter these things happen in the work place with adults too. The lesson learned here is don't leave your drinks unattended, and then be surprised that this could happen to you. "

Mr. Green wrote on Sep 21, 2007 7:03 AM:

" Its not so bad. tastes like tea... but its pea....... "

To;It's Life wrote on Sep 21, 2007 6:39 AM:

" YOu have just given a wonderful example of a parent who can find someway to down play and make an incident such as this "not so bad", or, "they were just being kids". And then you wonder why some kids go on to get in more trouble? I am not saying these students are BAD kids. They made a very bad choice and now the parents should hold them accountable. They should not only apologize face to face but should also follow through with any steps cited by the law. WHEN do you think they should learn resposible behavior? The next time they do something so foolish? "

It's life. wrote on Sep 21, 2007 1:59 AM:

" In no way am I saying that this is 'acceptable' or anything of that sort, but face reality. We have all been kids that do things without thinking. We have all done things that we've gotten in trouble for (maybe not to this extent though). Get over the whole "Look at how kids these days are!" and other the other things people are saying of that sort. As for the lack of parenting skills, that is RIDICULOUS. Kids will be kids! You can be the best parent in the world, but when under the influence of a bit of peer pressure, you'd be surprised what your kids will do. They just were having a little fun I'm assuming, maybe over some anger for the teacher. I'm sure they had no idea that this would make the teacher so sick or they'd get in this much trouble or anything. They probably didn't even think of the consequences. "

Matt wrote on Sep 20, 2007 11:34 PM:

" Haha, I just got done reading all of the comments here, and I think they are far more humorous than the prank... First things first, Everyone who has negative comments about what other people have said, it's still their opinion (as is your opinion on their comment) Saying the comments should be censored and removed because you don't agree is un-American. Secondly, I don't know any of these people, and I am not condoning this type of behavior. Peeing in a drink, or putting a tack on the chair is harrassment. What if your child came home and told you the teacher put a tack on their chair? Unacceptable, no? Whether the teacher had it coming or not, it reflects the values our children hold towards teachers. I am not lumping all students into one group, but do feel the majority of students do not realize what a teacher is providing them with. It is sad to see this type of behavior happening. Third, I have personally drank urine before(a substantial amount, for reasons of my own), and did not get sick at all... not even a stomach ache.. not saying it can't happen, but that would lead me to question if pee really was all that in the cup. Teachers, take note of this- maybe you shouldnt leave half drank drinks in the room while your not there... especially if the door isn't locked..?.. I know when I was growing up, everytime I got into legal trouble, the consequences of the law had no weight compared to what my parents would think/do... just some food for thought. As far as punishment goes, I'm guessing it will have minimal, if not negative, effects on these childrens future..It's up to society as a whole, as well as the parents. Can't everyone just be nice? "

Hollywood wins again wrote on Sep 20, 2007 11:28 PM:

" Similar to a scene out of "Wagons East" where an idiot urinated in a canteen that another later drank from. Hollywood again sets the moral standards for the "children". Obviously this young male and the two girls should not be permitted around food or drinking containers. Either way they will find that "trust" or a "good reputation" is a hard thing to get and easy to lose. You might recall the young lady who died in Aruba. Investigations have revealed that "for a price" a bartender would put a date rape drug in a ladies drink. Few people know how much is an overdose and how much alcohol can be imbibed afterward without heart or respiratory failure. Time for a required class on germs, drugs and disease. Older people can remember polio that was caused by a germ being passed "fecal oral" which is code for an infected person not washing hands after using the rest room. Urine can contain any number of germs including gonorrhea, syphilis, hepatitis, AIDS, or any number of lesser germs or viruses. Yes a mandatory class on the "things Hollywood did not tell you". It might be worth mention that if he did that to another inmate in most US prisons he would not likely survive. With him acting like he is heading that direction he should learn the "convict code". Trucking companies have had cases of brake failure and construction companies have had things fall on people, to name a few. It raises the insurance rates for all of us when people act stupid. "

Disgusted wrote on Sep 20, 2007 11:23 PM:

" Simple, get three cups have wizboy and two female freinds pee in a cup and exchange them. Then bottoms up . How funny is it now? "

Good comments: wrote on Sep 20, 2007 10:50 PM:

" There have been a few good comments on here. First of all, the teen who wrote is right, not all teens are bad, maybe it is just society accepting of the behavior of the ones who are bad. Society tends to turn the other way, and not deal with this type of stuff, but it is the bad behavior that gets the attention, that's why they do it. Parents need to be held accountable, as well as the child, even though they weren't there. Consequences at home need to reflect the severity of this deed! I am one that thinks that the crime and punishment should match. You know what that means? The ideal punishment would be to make the child drink his own, well, you know, but that would make society as low as the kid. So we take the high road and punish him in a respectful manner, which I fear won't be severe enough. This child need to feel the pinch of an act like this, if it means a public apology, taking care of the medical bills caused by this, being made to sit in a desk far away from everyone else for the rest of the year, eating lunch away from everyone else, being responsible for some community clean-up...whatever, make this a visible punishment that will remind him every day of his low class behavior. If this dies down and goes away, I will be bitterly disappointed in the school authorities, law enforcement, and his family. I do agree this is more of an assault than a prank, and should be treated as such, putting another human in danger of disease and at the very least, disgust and discomfort. "

FormerEducator wrote on Sep 20, 2007 10:30 PM:

" I firmly believe this students and the girls that aided him should be expelled. Any behavior that potentially endangers a teacher or another student should be cause for immediate removal. If an adult tried this in the workplace they would be immediately terminated for harassment and endangering others. This was no High School prank gone bad. "

here what happens next wrote on Sep 20, 2007 10:30 PM:

" I imagine these kids will end up placed in the custody of the local county social services agency, the parents stuck with a support bill, and DHS making more money off social workers telling us we can't discipline our children. Then this same social worker will tell the parents that these are misunderstood kids that have nothing more than teenage adjustment problems. oh vey, what a society we live in. "

Big R wrote on Sep 20, 2007 10:02 PM:

" Hey spoiled rotten little brats: As a graduate of BHS who put myself through college without mommy and daddy's little help I would like to give the youth posting idiotic banter on here a lesson. Uncle Sam through the GI Bill(And Guld War #1)paid for my college and not a bunch of student loans or mommies money I have a bit of advice for you. Just keep acting stupid and like a bunch of little three year olds and see what happens when you hit the real world. Mommy and Daddy wouldn't fund you forever or protect you and you immature stupidity will come back to haunt you. Realize you are spoon fed little babies and the real world won't coddle you or prepare for a life in the park Regardless of whether you get a degree or not. You are a bunch of spoon fed pansies that are a disgrace to the country. "

a parent wrote on Sep 20, 2007 9:56 PM:

" When I was kid a teacher never would be drinking in the classroom, I don't ever recall seeing a teacher drink anything during the school day and students would never be able to get into the classroom during lunch, looks like some policies need to be changed so the opportunity will not come up again. It is amazing what a 14 year old boy will do to win the admiration of a couple girls. This is totally gross. I remember seeing this on some show on tv where a employee did it to get back the boss and co-workers he urinating in a coffee pot, a video tape caught the deed. "

Fossilman wrote on Sep 20, 2007 9:48 PM:

" We need old school around here again!!! The good old woodshed and a willow switch!!! "

clark wrote on Sep 20, 2007 9:14 PM:

" Lawrence, Lawrence of Arabia, he's an English guy, he came to fight the Turkish "

Slim wrote on Sep 20, 2007 9:01 PM:

" I have taught school for many years and am now retired. I certainly have to agree with BabyJo. The "rotten apples" in the bunch give the impression to many people that everybody is rotten which is not the case. Most of the time I had some "rotten apples" in my classes but the good ones far outnumbered the bad ones. We have a different society than we did years ago and many people think that anything goes today. Unfortunately students get many of these ideas from movies and TV. My last comment may make your eyes cross. Some people should not be parents because they have no parenting skills period. My dog does a better job of raising her offspring that some people do at raising their children. "

ExNodakInstructor wrote on Sep 20, 2007 8:49 PM:

" A Parent of a Simle Student has it right. Respect for each other instills pride in one's self and your school and it doesn't cost anything. Parents and teachers who are respectful of others and condemn- not laugh at- sick incidents like this serve as positive role models for our kids. "

Becca wrote on Sep 20, 2007 8:35 PM:

" As a 20 year teaching vetern, I can honestly say I would not recommend teaching as career. Over the years I have noticed an increasing sense of entitlement and lack of respect that is perpetuated by parents who refuse to allow their children to accept responsibility for their actions. REAL self-esteem is earned and not granted to a child just because he/she exists. In these many years of teaching, I have had the honor of working with many wonderful students and families. Unfortunately, they are now fewer and farther between. I still enjoy the great students that walk through my door everyday and thank the parents who have worked so hard to make them ACCOUNTABLE and RESPECTFUL, but they are often outnumbered by children who are rude and lacking in self-control. So, while some of you laugh and think this incident is of little significance you should ponder the fact that fewer and fewer bright young people are considering a career were you are not only underpaid but also insulted on a daily basis. Who will be left to educate your children? "

Michael wrote on Sep 20, 2007 8:12 PM:

" No one is grouping all of you kids in one lump, so stop whining. If you've ever participated in something like this, you know who you are. If you haven't, it doesn't apply to you does it? You're getting defensive and that makes you look like you're hiding something. "

Last Laugh wrote on Sep 20, 2007 7:25 PM:

" After reading the comments regarding this issue, I just realized how many idiots there are in our society. Many of you think this is a joke. You refer back to a movie and think this is funny. It might of been in the movie, but this is real life. Many of you live in a fantasy world as presented in movies. As a parent of smaller children I sure hope I can instill them with higher values and respect then many of you have with your idiotic comments. These students with there actions showed there lack of respect for our system and should be expelled for a minimum of a year! Many of you talk about the old days, and the pranks you played on your teachers. What would the consequences been if you would have been caught. Things would be different today if the end result at home for over the line pranks was the same today as thirty years ago. What if this teacher contracts some disease such as hepatitis or such. Who's responsible then? There parents? They should be. It all starts at home and then "Who will have the last laugh then". "

Steve wrote on Sep 20, 2007 7:23 PM:

" That teacher is a fool and should not be allowed to teach anymore. Drinking urine is completely safe. P.S. keep up the work kids =P "

Amazing wrote on Sep 20, 2007 7:21 PM:

" Can't believe people are taking this so seriously. The teacher wouldn't have died from drinking urine. wowowowoowow. People these days just need to calm down especially the police. I mean good job on citing some 14 year olds with disorderly conduct, thats always the pigs nice little ace up their sleeve to arrest you for anything. Call a cop. Save a doughnut. "

crazy kids wrote on Sep 20, 2007 7:19 PM:

" This should be a felony not just disorderly conduct. I can truely say if this was my kid I would probably go to jail for beating him/her. Don't blame the parents for this. The best psychologists in the world say that 85% of the decisions kids make when not with their parents come from their peers. Meaning only 15 % of what you teach them gets used. "

offended student wrote on Sep 20, 2007 7:02 PM:

" okay. i know the kids that did this, and i'm not going to say who, but they weren't badly raised, and they aren't bad kids. they're really nice people, but they just made a very bad decision. it is NOT funny that they did that, but you shouldn't be making it their parents' fault also. the girls invovled are some of the most well behaved people i know. it isn't fair that you think they should be put on medication. generalization. i find it just as disrespectful as peeing in someone's coffee cup. not all of us are "disgusting miscreants" as ExNodakInstructor so kindly put it. "

C5323 wrote on Sep 20, 2007 6:49 PM:

" I remember being told that when things like this would happen in school there was usually discipline involved- by use of a meter stick. Obviously these kids had no idea of exactly what they were doing or believed they could do it and get away with it. Its disgusting. I hope the kids, and their parents, feel ashamed right now. Teachers are the backbone of the community and if they're being disrepected in class by teen angst then I would see no reason for them to want to stay. Parents: teach your kids some respect. Its not that hard to do when you put in effort and take responsibility. Use a stick if you need to. "

slj wrote on Sep 20, 2007 6:43 PM:

" 75% of the comments I have read on this story is absolutely disgusting! What is wrong with you people? Or better.....How old are you??? What happened to this teacher is not only NOT funny....but it was an assault on them. All of you who are laughing at their expense should have this same thing happen to you.....then let the punch lines fly! Grow up!!! "

Yuck!!! wrote on Sep 20, 2007 6:29 PM:

" To all those parents: Dont title all of us as, well, that. Most of us wouldnt Dare do anything like that. Plus thats grose way grose "

A Simle Parent wrote on Sep 20, 2007 6:15 PM:

" I agree with you Baby Jo, parents and adults want respect from kids and teens, then they need to give it as well. Thank you for posting! You should be proud and i hope you show your parents what you posted!!! "

SE Forty wrote on Sep 20, 2007 5:53 PM:

" All this and some of these comments coming from the high and mighty Bismarck area crowd. This kid should be kicked out of this school system. "

BabyJo wrote on Sep 20, 2007 5:33 PM:

" To the parents who are commenting on here, you need to realize that not ALL OF US KIDS AND TEENAGERS ARE BAD!!! Yeah there are a few of them. But seriously, if you think about it, you never really give us teens a chance to talk. You treat us ALL like we are stupid and have nothing to say. Also, some of you are saying "back in my day"... whats that showing us? That you did stupid stuff. And to add to that you go and give example of what you did? That just gives those who are daring enough to do something stupid, even more ideas! I dont know what those kids were thinking, but obviously they dont have a brain to call their own! So what i am trying to get across here is: STOP PUTTING ALL OF US INTO THE SAME CATAGORY. WE ARE NOT ALL BAD!!! THERE ARE MANY OF US THAT ARE TAKING OFENCE TO WHAT IS BEING SAID. NEXT TIME THINK BEFORE YOU LEAVE DEGRADING COMMENTS LIKE THAT!!! "

Jim St Jim wrote on Sep 20, 2007 5:32 PM:

" Hang em!!! Or make them drink pee. "

A Parent of A Simle Student wrote on Sep 20, 2007 5:27 PM:

" Don't lump all children at Simle in the same pile as these three kids, (who I am willing to bet have more problems than we are aware of, I bet this is the tip of the ice berg.) My kids go to SImle and they are proud of their school, their teachers and their friends. They are active in athletics, councils, church and community because we, their parents, enourage positive behaviour and don't turn a blind eye to inappropriate behaviour in the home or out. They have been taught to respect THEMSELVES, their PARENTS/FAMILY and OTHERS! It is way past time that people realize you are NOT your children's friend, you are their parent and it is up to you to act accordingly and set an example. "

Warrior 75 wrote on Sep 20, 2007 4:56 PM:

" Sounds like something a couple of our classmates were capable of!!! "

sumwon wrote on Sep 20, 2007 4:53 PM:

" Who are some of these people?? Surely there aren't that many stupid, callous individuals living in ND are there or are these the teens writing nasty little items here. they have opened their mouths and let their stupidity fall out. "

Pete wrote on Sep 20, 2007 4:36 PM:

" ooh, looks like 3 more kids are about to be put on ritalin and prozac. "

REX wrote on Sep 20, 2007 4:15 PM:

" This was assault not a prank. "

Da Truth wrote on Sep 20, 2007 4:11 PM:

" Just a little example into the minds of teens nowadays. Most, not all, are out of control! I've waited for my student to come out at BHS after school and actually saw this girl pull her shirt up and expose her self to other students. I looked around at the parents in the cars and they were all just laughing. So, when you get a spike of pee in your drink...you know where that behavior originates. "

Deb wrote on Sep 20, 2007 4:05 PM:

" Dudley: "We are going to Wa-Wa-Watts, at wha-wha-what time in th-the morning?" *throws puffer* "Let's go." "

harpua wrote on Sep 20, 2007 4:00 PM:

" But I saw on Man vs. Wild that you could drink your own urine if you were out of water... "

Front Row Seat wrote on Sep 20, 2007 3:42 PM:

" Whoa!! Where is the on-line editor on this one? Many of these comments are completely inappropriate. "

Question? wrote on Sep 20, 2007 3:40 PM:

" The conduct of these students, in my opinion, is not acceptable! My question: is it permissible for students to have (drink) pop, water, coffee, etc in the classroom? "

Even Pranks Need Updating at Times wrote on Sep 20, 2007 3:15 PM:

" The whole body fluids in someone's drink is not quite as funny as it once was in the past. There is quite a smörgåsbord of hepatitis (A,B,C,G, etc) that can easily be caught from urine as well as various venereal diseases. While it might be rare to find a youngster with HIV in North Dakota, that isn't the case in more populated areas. How would you like to undergo HIV testing for a decade after someone pulls this stunt on you? How do you think it would impact your life? Hepatitis is easily passed on to your wife or partner, so they would have that to look forward to as well. "

MamaMia wrote on Sep 20, 2007 2:48 PM:

" It's Brenda and Shirley Weinbraub, the Iron Box Twins, live and direct from Tubby's Drive In Bing Bong Bing! "

So typical: wrote on Sep 20, 2007 2:38 PM:

" This is just so typical of our kids today and their lack of respect for others. This isn't "funny" , this is malice and getting their fun at someone else's expense. Kids are hard and cold. Our kids today are becoming desensitized to the point that normal or "in the old days" type of fun isn't near enough. Kids are mean and cruel, and lack any kind of respecp or tolerance for others. I sincerely hope that this child, and his buddies, are really punished and made an example of. A REAL example, and let's not forget that parents are still responsible and accountable for their kids. I know the parents probably wouldn't agree or encourage this, but let's get a message to parents to take control of their kids and ensure this doesn't happen again. I am horrified at the sick minds our kids have. For those who don't think this is a big deal, would you have laughed it off had that happened to you??? I think it's disgusting and reflects the attitude of the kids these days, and needs to be severely addressed. "

MD. girl wrote on Sep 20, 2007 2:35 PM:

" Just like "standing in a garage doesn't make you a car", WELL, just because this youth is 14, doesn't mean he's got the thinking process of a 14 year old. Maturity comes to some at different ages, so hopefully it comes "sooner than later". Let the educators assess the discipline appropiate for this behavior. They are going to be in contact with him (them) long after the excitement blows over and their raport with all envolved can turn into a positive experience. These youths will eventually become parenting adults (?) and see the importance of the "bib" picture. "

heavens nevens wrote on Sep 20, 2007 2:25 PM:

" "I think I've had this taste in my mouth before" "

Crank wrote on Sep 20, 2007 2:22 PM:

" Hey Jimbo, I knew a response like your's would be coming. I think I played every practical joke in the book in school. Tacks on the chairs, super glueing stuff to the desks and such. But this is down right NASTY! Not funny! How would you react if you were on the receiving end of this. I'll bet you would not be laughing. "

harpua wrote on Sep 20, 2007 2:19 PM:

" VOLARIEEE..... "

To Jimbo wrote on Sep 20, 2007 2:12 PM:

" I believe this is a LOT different then sticking a tack in your teachers chair. By urinating in a drink you can pass a lot of diseases. "

Not a teacher because... wrote on Sep 20, 2007 2:03 PM:

" Jimbo, how old are you that you would think urinating in a cup is the same thing as putting a tack on a chair? I would guess about 13. Those students need some serious help and I hope that they would get it before they do something really "funny". "

MamaMia wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:53 PM:

" Hey Man, thirsty? Have some punch! "

savysac wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:52 PM:

" All you people talking about "in my day" and "kids these days" are doing nothing but showing your ignorance and age. School pranks are as old as the education system itself. Is it right, no. Is it funny, sadly yes. By letting the teacher drink it, they may have gone over the line, Gee, YA THINK??? "

Disgusted wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:52 PM:

" This young man's actions and the responses treating this personal attack as funny are an embarrassment to our community. It will be a further embarrassment if our school administrators and school board members do not respond with an expulsion. "

So typical: wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:44 PM:

" This is just so typical of our kids today and their lack of respect for others. This isn't "funny", this is malice and getting their fun at someone else's expense. Our kids today are becoming desensitized to the point that normal or "in the old days" type of fun isn't near enough. Kids are mean and cruel, and lack any kind of respect or tolerance for others. I sincerely hope that this child, and his buddies, are really punished and made an example of. A REAL example, and let's not forget that parents are still responsible and accountable for their kids. I know the parents probably wouldn't agree or encourage this, but let's get a message to parents to take control of their kid and ensure this doesn't happen again. I am horrified at the sick minds our kids have. For those who don't think this is a big deal, would you have laughed it off had that happened to you??? I think it's disgusting and reflects the attitude of the kids these days, and needs to be severely addressed. "

DaNephew wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:44 PM:

" Ya thirsty? Try the punch! "

a teacher wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:44 PM:

" yeah..we used to do pranks too, but nothing that can make a person sick. This is not overreacting. This was a cruel and absolute disgusting form of behavior. Much different that putting a whoopy cushion on a chair. These students should be expelled and sent to another district!! "

Deb wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:40 PM:

" You know, the New Bomb Turk Memorial Library? Yes, right over there - over the nice hibiscus. "

Mrs. Jacqueline Freedman wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:39 PM:

" "I've had this taste in my mouth before." "

Teacher respect wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:34 PM:

" What's up with all of the humorous comments. It appears that some of these people, with their comments, may be worse than the student in this case. "

Former Mandanian wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:27 PM:

" that is horrible, what is happening to good old ND? "

Not funny wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:25 PM:

" Putting tacks on chairs or messing up the class room is not the same "humor" as urinating in a coffee cup. Also, I don't see the humor in "wang" jokes. The students involved should be punished and any one who thinks this is funny should see a doctor because something is wrong in the head with them. Useless comments like those should be censured and removed. "

Teacher wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:18 PM:

" I am a teacher and I am disgusted by this. If Jimbo thinks this is so funny, he should drink it and see how it tastes. I would not say that it is good clean fun when the teacher got sick from drinking it. I went to school to become an educator, not to have pranks pulled on my colleagues and myself. Teachers deserve more respect than this from parents and students. "

Grossed Out wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:10 PM:

" I'm with you ExNodakInstructor. It wouldn't be funny if it happened to you, I know I would be pretty irate if someone did that to me. Pretty disgusting and childish, even for a 14 year old. "

PO3 wrote on Sep 20, 2007 12:34 PM:

" In our anything goes society we find people surprised by these students actions. I'm not. "

MamaMia wrote on Sep 20, 2007 12:24 PM:

" No name, just punch! "

ExNodakInstructor wrote on Sep 20, 2007 12:13 PM:

" I fail to see the humor in all of this. "

Lawrence of Arabia wrote on Sep 20, 2007 12:12 PM:

" It tastes good it's gotta certain wang to it though "

Jimbo wrote on Sep 20, 2007 12:10 PM:

" Yo man! Talk about diciplinarians overreacting. When I went to school, we played all sorts of jokes on teachers. Anything from messing up the classroom to putting a tack on their chair. OUCH!!! It's all just clean fun and dare ya stuff. Everyone needs to chill. "

Deb wrote on Sep 20, 2007 11:44 AM:

" Does have a bit of WAAAAAANGGG to it. Good tho. Can I have some more of that? "

DaNephew wrote on Sep 20, 2007 11:41 AM:

" It does have a little WHANG to it... "

c wrote on Sep 20, 2007 11:41 AM:

" i dont understand how they got caught...???? "

ExNodakInstructor wrote on Sep 20, 2007 11:31 AM:

" Since the school district still pays for the education of these disgusting miscreants, expulsion might not happen. Maybe suspension or transfer, but an example should be made. The vast majority of students are great in ND but I have seen too many times that dangerous bullies are not expelled, just suspended. They return with sneers on their faces after a nice "vacation". "

howdisgusting wrote on Sep 20, 2007 11:11 AM:

" I remember the days when we were afraid to chew gum in class~the parents of this child should be extremely proud........something tells me that there is a true lack of parenting in this home.......I don't think that disorderly conduct is enough of a punishment........don't just slap his fingers. "

Far from home wrote on Sep 20, 2007 10:56 AM:

" How disappointing that our children are behaving in such distasteful ways. I would still like to think that North Dakotans hold values higher than this and are brought up to respect other people. Living on the east coast has opened my eyes to different parenting or lack of parenting skills. Please, please let's keep ND a place where treating others with kindness is the norm. "

Crank wrote on Sep 20, 2007 10:41 AM:

" Expulsion! Go find somewhere else to go to school. "

Jr. wrote on Sep 20, 2007 10:40 AM:

" ohhhhhh...his parents oughta be proud. Hahaha "

MamaMia wrote on Sep 20, 2007 10:15 AM:

" Okay, all you "Hollywood Knights" fans, join in. I'll start it: "Officer, TASTE THIS!" "

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