Is E-85 worth the ride?

Will Kincaid /Tribune E-85 Ethanol gas was selling for 55 cents less then regular unleaded at the Cenex Station on West Divide. Only two places in Bismarck sell E-85 fuel, StaMart and Cenex, both are located on Divide Avenue.  
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The benefits of E-85 are obvious to corn farmers and ethanol producers, but for those buying the alternative fuel at the pump, the savings might not be as great as they think.

E-85, made with 85 percent ethanol, is being promoted throughout the state as a cheaper alternative to traditional gasoline that helps the local economy and reduces the country's dependence on foreign oil.

The cost of E-85 in Bismarck on Thursday was $2.29 a gallon, which was about 18 percent cheaper than gasoline with 10 percent ethanol, and almost 20 percent cheaper than gas without ethanol.

But calculating the savings from using E-85 isn't as simple as finding the difference between the price of gasoline and the alternative fuel because cars that can run off of E-85 don't get as high of gas mileage as they do from straight gasoline.

According to the National Ethanol Vehicle Coalition, www.E85fuel.com, flexible fuel vehicles can experience a 5 percent to 15 percent drop in fuel economy.

Jocie Iszler, executive director of the North Dakota Corn Council and Corn Growers Association, said although vehicles don't get as good of gas mileage with E-85, the price difference makes up for the mileage loss.

However, as time goes by, the savings from using E-85 could shrink to nothing.

That's because a state subsidy of E-85 at the pump will disappear most likely by spring 2006.

According to the state Tax Department, a tax of 1-cent per gallon is imposed on E-85 sold to retailers and consumers. But after 1.2 million gallons of taxable E-85 are sold in the state, the tax will revert to 23 cents per gallon, which is what is currently charged on gasoline.

The tax reduction on E-85 was passed by the Legislature earlier this year to encourage the use of E-85.

According to the state Tax Department, 135,552 gallons of E-85 were sold in July. At that rate, the tax will expire in the spring or early summer of 2006.

Based on Thursday's price of gas and E-85, if the sales tax exemption was not in effect, E-85 would cost $2.51, which is less than a 12 percent savings over straight gasoline for that day.

Rep. Rick Berg, R-Fargo, a sponsor of legislation that included a reduction in taxes for E-85, said the plan was to create incentives for people to use E-85 without creating a dependence on a government program.

Berg said the plan has been extremely successful so far.

Although the price of E-85 will eventually increase, once it is taxed at a higher rate, Berg said people will still save money by using it.

"I think people are still going to get a tremendous price break by using E-85 even though they won't have the 21-cent reduction,"Berg said.

Cy Fix, the manager of Cenex stations in Bismarck, Mandan and Dickinson, said people are using a lot of E-85 even though some of the vehicles were not made for it.

Fix said people are mixing their own concoctions of an ethanol blend by using a combination of E-85 and straight gasoline.

"Iknow there are not that many flex fuel vehicles in Bismarck," Fix said.

Using E-85 in a vehicle that isn't designed for it can damage the engine.

There are only two E-85 pumps in Bismarck - one at Cenex on West Divide Avenue and another at Stamart on East Divide Avenue.

Fix said adding more E-85 pumps will depend on the price of ethanol, which he said has gotten out of line.

"They will get to the point where they will price themselves out of the market,"Fix said.

Fix said the oil industry is blamed for price gouging, but the ethanol industry is just as guilty.

The success of E-85 also will depend on how many flexible fuel vehicles are used.

Local car dealerships have seen an increased number of customers asking about E-85 vehicles, but so far there has not been a run on flex fuel vehicles.

"There hasn't been a huge demand,"Chris Davis, sales manager at Eide Ford, said.

Several companies offer E-85 vehicles, including Ford.

Mike Kahl, sales manager at Corwin Churchill Motors Inc., which sells Chrysler vehicles, said there has been more interest in the E-85 vehicles, but the dealership hasn't seen a big increase in sales of E-85 vehicles. Kahl said people are still buying SUVs despite the high gas prices.

"Ihaven't seen the panic like in the '70s and '80s,"Kahl said.

There are several Web sites that list E-85 compatible vehicles, including the North Dakota Corn Growers Association at www.ndcorn.com. Information on E-85 also can be found at goefuel.com.

Besides subsidizing E-85 and ethanol plants, the state also has had a hand in marketing E-85.

In May, Gov. John Hoeven became part of a marketing campaign to promote GoE, a brand of ethanol-blended fuel that is made in North Dakota.

General Motors also donated the use of an E-85 Chevrolet Avalanche for one year to the state. The donation is part of a campaign by GM and the Governors' Ethanol Coalition to promote the use of ethanol and to increase awareness of E-85 and flexible fuel vehicles. The vehicle will be used by the Corn Utilization Council, Department of Agriculture, the Agriculture Products Utilization Commission, the state office of Renewable Energy and Energy Efficiency and the governor's office to promote ethanol use in North Dakota.

North Dakota farmers and ethanol producers have a vested interest in promoting the use of ethanol.

According to the Commerce Department, ethanol plants in North Dakota use approximately 13 million bushels of corn grown by North Dakota farmers to produce 35 million gallons of GoE. According to the North Dakota Corn Growers Association, GoE production typically raises the market price for corn by 5 to 10 cents per bushel in the surrounding area and GoE production provides the third-largest in-state market for corn.

While using an E-85 vehicle might save a person some money, Iszler said it is good to use because it supports local economies and reduces the country's dependence on foreign oil.

"We all know that we need to do something to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, and this is probably the closest thing we've got,"Iszler said.

(Reach reporter Tom Rafferty at 223-8482 or tom.rafferty@;bismarcktribune.com.)

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Is E-85 worth the ride?
Comments

L.J.H. wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:52 AM:

" i like your article "

John Bradley wrote on Jan 30, 2007 3:57 PM:

" cost anaalysis must be done-price reduction is a must-what happens after the reduced tax programs dry up? "

MIKE F wrote on Jan 26, 2007 7:54 PM:

" LIVING HERE IN NJ WE DON'T HERE ABOUT E/85 MUCH BUT WHAT I HAVE READ MAKES ME BELIEVE ITS WORTH LOOKING INTO ,LESS MILEAGE SO WHAT ,IT MAKE UP IN ENVIRONMENTAL WAYS [LESS EXHAUST POLLUTION] ,BESIDES IT PROMOTES GROWTH FROM WITHIN INSTEAD OF FOREIGN IMPORTING OUR FARMERS COULD INCREASE THIER PROFITS .WITH FARMS FOLDING UP EVERY OTHER DAY THIS WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO SUPPORT THE ONES WE HAVE LEFT "

jimmy wrote on Jan 7, 2007 10:25 PM:

" I love E-85 I use it in my new truck. I tried it in an old beater and it blew up the engine though. "

Lincoln Schlecht wrote on Nov 28, 2006 10:48 PM:

" A quick search on the internet for "E-85" using Google or Yahoo will pretty much answer any questions you all have. I am in favor of a blender pump, as my 1997 Ford Mustang can not run straight E-85, but runs perfectly on a 30% blend (I have calculated the fuel injector duty-cycle intervals and know I am within safe limits for fuel delivery). The computer compensates for the 30% blend effectively. "

jerry bourne, nc. wrote on May 22, 2006 10:11 AM:

" This is a no brainer, if everything I've heard so far about e-85 is true, I don't care if it actually ends up costing more. reduce oil imports and reduce future threats and blackmails to our economy. Unfortunatly and regrettably, e-85 usage makes to much sense for it to ever reach its full potntial. "

Jeff wrote on May 9, 2006 7:59 AM:

" What the article; and no one else, also doesn't say about ethanol is that while Brazil uses more of it it, they use sugarcane to produce it. It is cheaper and cleaner. If E-85 producers want it to take off they will have to do a lot better on the price. Like well under $2.00 if they want it to make a mark here in the US. "

Winwin1 wrote on May 7, 2006 10:09 PM:

" Main concern: The amount of energy that is used to plant the corn, harvest the corn, process the corn into ethonal, distribute the product. Are we putting more energy into creating ethonal than the actual rewards? Cost benifit analyisis needs to be done??? "

David Freas NC wrote on May 7, 2006 7:32 PM:

" This is great! I can see this type of fuel being used in the near future. USA could change over very quickly and then we would need oil from over seas.Even if it cost the same we would be better off. "

Vikash Krishana wrote on May 5, 2006 9:13 AM:

" CAN regular vechicles running of gasoline like 87-88-89, can they use the ethonal 85 i have a 1997 isuzu rodeo. and i wanted to use the ethonal 85 becuase it is cheap "

James wrote on Apr 28, 2006 12:37 PM:

" Where the heck is Bismark. "

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